Quagmire or Just War?

CHUCKMORSE.COM ^ | September 10, 2003 | Chuck Morse

[Tailgunner Joe]

The criticism that President George W. Bush is now getting from the Democrats over the situation in Iraq parallels the type of criticism that President Harry S. Truman heard in the months after the fall of Hitler. President Bush had the moral courage to stop Saddam before he had a chance to commit the type of genocide Hitler committed.

An August 12, 1945 article from Reuters entitled "Administration In Crisis Over Burgeoning Quagmire" states that "President Truman, just a few months into his young presidency, is coming under increasing fire from some Congressional Republicans for what appears to be a deteriorating security situation in occupied Germany, with some calling for his removal from office."

The article points out "over three months after a formal declaration of an end to hostilities, the occupation is bogged down. Fanatical elements of the former Nazi regime that, in their zeal to liberate their nation from the foreign occupiers, call themselves members of the Werewolf continue to commit almost-daily acts of sabotage against Germany's already-ravaged infrastructure, and attack American troops. They have been laying road mines, poisoning food and water supplies, and setting various traps, often lethal, for the occupying forces."

Many hard-core Nazis were apparently unwilling to just stroll quietly into the night. President Truman understood this and President Bush understands it today. Peace was achieved in Western Europe only after the evildoers were completely and utterly crushed.

In 1945 it was "not difficult to find antagonism and anti-Americanism among the population--many complain of the deprivation and lack of security. There are thousands of homeless refugees, and humanitarian efforts seem confused and inadequate." This refrain has a familiar ring to it.

"In the wake of the budding disaster, some have called for more international participation in peacekeeping." This also sounds familiar. President Truman responded to these suggestions by unofficially quoting from General Anthony Clement McAuliffe who, when asked by the Nazi's to surrender his surrounded forces during the Battle of the Bulge replied "Nuts."

A Red Cross official griped that "...the German people will be more comfortable if their conquerors weren't now their overlords. It makes it difficult to argue that this wasn't an imperialistic war when the occupying troops in the western sector are exclusively American, British and French." The same nonsense is being spouted today.

The article quotes an unnamed congressman who said that "...it's time to ask whether the German People are better off now than they were a few months ago. Yes, a brutal dictator has been deposed, but at least the electricity and water supply were mostly working, and the trains running on time. After years of killing them and destroying their infrastructure with American bombs, it seems to me that the German people have suffered enough without the chaos that our occupation, with its inadequate policing, is bringing."

The Nazi werewolves took their marching orders from propaganda minister Josef Gobbles who, in a broadcast in the waning weeks of the war stated "We Werewolves consider it our supreme duty to kill, to kill and to kill, employing every cunning and wile in the darkness of the night, crawling, groping through towns and villages, like wolves, noiselessly, mysteriously." Reuters notes that "while no new broadcasts of Goebbels' voice have been heard since early May, no one can be certain as to whether he is alive or dead, and continuing to help orchestrate the attacks and boost morale among the forces for German liberation. As long as his fate, and more importantly, that of the former leader Adolf Hitler himself, remains unresolved, the prospects for pacifying the brutally conquered country may be dim."

Instead of "No Blood for Oil" protesters back then were marching with placards that said "No Blood For Soviet Socialism," and "It's All About The Coal."

It was suggested at the time that the failure to get Hitler meant that the war was a failure. An unnamed Senator stated "Sure, it's nice to have released all those people from the concentration camps, but we were told we were going to war against Hitler, even though he'd done nothing to usNow they say that we have 'Victory in Europe,' but it seems to me that if they can't produce the man we supposedly went to war against, it's a pretty hollow victory. Without this man that they told us was such a great threat to America, how can even they claim that this war was justified?"

[JohnGalt]

Poor, Chuck, didn't get the memo that the 'Werewolf' propoganda has been discredited.


Condi's Phony History (add Chuck Morse)
http://slate.msn.com/id/2087768/

[Free Vulcan]

self-ping

[Arkady]

Johnson's War on Poverty....now there's a quagmire you'll never hear about on the nightly news.

[El Gato]

Condi's Phony History (add Chuck Morse)

The slate piece is itself might devoid of any facts that would allow comparison. Meanwhile the news media, biased as always, is making it look like Iraq is as dangerous as say, the south side of Chicago, Washington DC, or part of Los Angeles. Or lately San Antionio, where last night a lady was shot while making copies at Kinkos very early this morning in an apparently random drive by shooting, and not the "bad" part of town either. Police found 5 shell casing along the road in front of the Kinkos.

[armymarinemom]

I could go with pulling out of the Quagmire. I think we should leave Bosnia,Kosovo. Iraq isn't a quagmire. We are killing terrorist.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

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[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Hah. I love this article.

JG, those little chicken-scratch things are called quotation marks, meaning someone actually said these words, meaning "non-fiction".

Listen to SOD Rumsfeld talk about post-WWII Germany some time. It wasn't that long ago. We aren't talking piecing pottery shards together. We have living eye-witnesses and plenty of documentation. Next Slate will be telling us there are no US troops in Baghdad.

8 The Werewolf Principle [Post-war Germany Hitler regime 'deadenders']

"...it's time to ask whether the German People are better off now than they were a few months ago. Yes, a brutal dictator has been deposed, but at least the electricity and water supply were mostly working, and the trains running on time.

QUAGMIRE.

 

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[mikegi]

This Chuck Morse character knows that the supposed "Routers" news item is a take off on current coverage of Iraq, right?

Here's the original satire wire report:
http://www.interglobal.org/weblog/archives/002843.html#002843

[olliemb]

Is Slate rewriting history?

[Alamo-Girl]

Bump!

[PhilDragoo]

WHY ARE WE IN HAITI?

[JohnGalt]

No, I think comic book readers like Condi and Rummy are rewriting history.

[blackie]

Contrary to the gloom&doom of the left-wing presstitutes, we are winning and will continue to win, the war on terror with the leadership of George W. Bush and the superb members of his administration!

[Jerez2]

John Galt. Austin Willard Wright. Uno Animo. Why bother even reading what they say? They are arguing for the fun of it. They are not debating; they are pontificating. Stick to your guns, Ragtime Cowgirl! You are positive yet realistic... that's the way to win this war. OUR war, that is, here on 'the home front.' We're doing our part! :-)