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France writes itself off as arrogant failure: New books see a country in decline
The Times ^ | September 26, 2003 | Charles Brumner

Posted on 09/29/2003 12:14:26 AM PDT by Timesink

September 26, 2003

France writes itself off as arrogant failure

by charles brumner

New books see a country in decline

FRANCE is a nation in decline, blind to its failings and living beyond its means while strutting with empty arrogance on the world stage.

That may sound like the standard Francophobe rant from across the Channel or the Atlantic but it is, surprisingly, a view gaining ground in France.

Doubts about Gallic supremacy have been a periodic feature of France for centuries. They have now returned, fed by economic gloom and amplified by bestselling books. France, according to the thesis, has been overtaken by Britain and others because it atrophied as a centralised welfare state in the 1970s.

Before leaving to lecture the United Nations on the superiority of the French world view this week, President Chirac was forced to respond to the doom-mongers with a morale-boosting speech. France was bursting with health, he insisted to a provincial au- dience. In Paris, the claim was given as much credence as his line that “France has no quarrel with the United States”.

Jean-Pierre Raffarin, the Prime Minister, hammered home his boss’s message this week, saying: “I do not believe that France is in decline.”

The words of the now unloved Prime Minister were undermined yesterday when he unveiled a 2004 budget that expects minimal growth, takes national debt up to record level and busts a hole in the EU’s ceiling for public deficits for a third successive year.

Big corporate bankruptcies and spring strikes by the public sector and entertainment workers preceded a summer of forest fires and a heatwave that was officially blamed yesterday for 14,800 deaths.

The mood is being fanned by three books which argue that there is nothing temporary about France’s troubles. With its chronic unemployment and dinosaur centralised state, France can no longer pose as a universal model of progress and civilisation, they argue. In L’Arrogance Française, Romain Gubert and Emmanuel Saint-Martin, both journalists, say that France infuriates the rest of the world with its discredited diplomacy.

In Adieu à la France qui s’en va (Farewell to a France that is departing) Jean-Marie Rouart, a novelist and member of the august Académie Française, says that France is losing its soul to mediocrity and needs a great leader to restore its grandeur. The biggest splash is being made by La France Qui Tombe (Collapsing France) by Nicolas Baverez, an historian and economist.

Baverez says that, after three postwar decades of progress, France lost its way under the fourteen-year left-wing reign of François Mitterrand and eight years under M Chirac. Hostages to tyrannical state sector unions, farmers, subsidised film-makers and other interest groups, successive governments have squandered national wealth and heritage to maintain a protectionist, Soviet-style state, he says.

He also draws unfavourable comparisons with Britain, the favourite destination for French emigrants in the past decade. British per capita income has overtaken that of France, where taxes are now much higher. Britons pay 45 per cent of their income to the state in taxes, compared with 75 per cent for the French. Baverez says that Britain has taken over the European Union, monopolising its top jobs and imposing a British stamp on the new draft constitution. France, in turn, has alienated its neighbours by playing fast and loose with the EU rules.

Abroad, M Chirac’s posturing had made a laughing stock of France. “In the Iraq crisis, France has suffered a diplomatic Agincourt,” he says.

France faces a choice, Baverez concludes: “Shock therapy that will modernise the country through a forced march” or the pursuit of decline that will produce social upheaval and feed the far Right of Jean-Marie Le Pen. France, he says, is ripe for a near-revolutionary change such as when it summoned Charles de Gaulle as its saviour in 1958.

The Left is accusing him of “declinism”, an old right-wing obsession that fed Fascism in the 1930s. Attacks are also coming from the Right. Figaro said: “This mood of ‘francopessimism’ is creating an unhealthy atmosphere which carries the stigma of the 1930s.” But, it added: “The roots of the evil are in our statist culture, something that the British threw out ages ago.”

The bulk of the reaction, holds that Baverez makes good points but neglects France’s qualities, such as the reforms that have opened markets, its place as Europe’s top recipient of foreign investment, and a quality of life that remains the envy of the world.

A powerful defence of the decline thesis came in Le Monde from Marc Fumaroli, an eminent historian and a professor at the University of Chicago, who said that France, for all its undoubted glories, was suffering from a general “irritation, frustration and demoralisation” that was more bitter and deep than anywhere else in Europe or in the US.

Deprived of a leader with the vision of Thatcher, Reagan or Blair, it had been left to stagnate, he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; europelist; france; frencharrogance; frenchfrogs; powellwatch; rumsfeldpinglist
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Happy Monday!
1 posted on 09/29/2003 12:14:27 AM PDT by Timesink
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bump for bump list
2 posted on 09/29/2003 12:15:46 AM PDT by Timesink
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can't...stop...laughing!
3 posted on 09/29/2003 12:15:52 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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So I guess my question would be why does America want to be more like France? Has Socialism worked anywhere...EVER? Maybe all those Muslims they have been importing will help them out of their funk................yeah, that's the ticket.
4 posted on 09/29/2003 12:22:14 AM PDT by WRhine
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My nominee for best article of the week. France delenda est.
5 posted on 09/29/2003 12:26:25 AM PDT by Young Rhino (Do the French know the meaning of the words soap, water, and deodorant?)
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Britons pay 45 per cent of their income to the state in taxes, compared with 75 per cent for the French.

How does the average French citizen even SURVIVE? I mean, sure, you don't have to pay (directly) for your socialized medicine, but what about your mortgage? Or food? The basics of life? How do you do that with only 25% of your income?

7 posted on 09/29/2003 12:54:34 AM PDT by Timesink
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Britons pay 45 per cent of their income to the state in taxes, compared with 75 per cent for the French.

How does the average French citizen even SURVIVE? I mean, sure, you don't have to pay (directly) for your socialized medicine, but what about your mortgage? Or food? The basics of life? How do you do that with only 25% of your income?

You need to lower your expectations. Socialism has a way of doing that.

10 posted on 09/29/2003 12:58:36 AM PDT by freedomlover
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You need to lower your expectations. Socialism has a way of doing that.

Excellent point.

11 posted on 09/29/2003 12:59:52 AM PDT by Timesink
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France surrenders to the truth.
12 posted on 09/29/2003 1:06:12 AM PDT by DainBramage
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"France lost its way under the left-wing reign"

"successive governments have squandered national wealth and heritage to maintain a protectionist, Soviet-style state"

Yes, and leftists (Democrats in the U.S.) would love to do to the United States what they have done to France (and California and Russia and Cuba)--and they will if the American people are stupid enough to let them.

"France, he says, is ripe for a near-revolutionary change

Wrong! France is ripe for a revolutionary change--and it's going to be much worse than M. Baverez thinks! Unless the French people wake up soon and face reality, the revolutionary change is going to be a Muslim takeover, and it's going to be much worse than the 1789 revolutionary change.

"France is losing its soul to mediocrity and needs a great leader"

Yes, and that great leader has stood before them for three years--President George Bush--urging the French people to act with him to save not only themselves but Western Civilization.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

There is no soul-sapping drug like decadence.

13 posted on 09/29/2003 1:17:50 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The American Heartland--the Spirit of Flight 93)
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and a quality of life that remains the envy of the world

LOL! I've been to Paris and various parts of France over two dozen times in ten years. What the hell are they talking about? 14,800 die without air conditioning, and all they have are space heaters in the winter. The air is worse than Houston, and it is crammed with islamic jihaddists.

The change I have seen in France over the last 10 years is alarming, to say the least.

14 posted on 09/29/2003 2:20:40 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (Education starts in the home. Education stops in the public schools)
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Britons pay 45 per cent of their income to the state in taxes, compared with 75 per cent for the French.

They must be talking about total taxes here. Income tax in Britain is much less than 45%.

15 posted on 09/29/2003 2:33:45 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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16 posted on 09/29/2003 2:45:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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self-ping
17 posted on 09/29/2003 2:57:18 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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Don't you have to start somewhere above the bottom to be able to decline?
18 posted on 09/29/2003 3:20:41 AM PDT by jaykay ("Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide" -- James Burnham)
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They could vote for an all Muslim government and then start murdering their way to world dominance.
19 posted on 09/29/2003 4:28:02 AM PDT by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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"The bulk of the reaction, holds that Baverez makes good points but neglects France’s qualities, such as the reforms that have opened markets, its place as Europe’s top recipient of foreign investment, and a quality of life that remains the envy of the world."

Those who actually believe the above paragraph are both delusional and certifiable. In a country that can't afford air-conditioning and allows nearly 15,000 of its citizens to die as the result of the heat; a country where the citizens don't bathe regularly; a country that refuses to add foreign words to its language so that the language may continue to live and remain relevant; this country is far from being "the envy of the world".

France is Europe's California, where decades of rampant liberalism and vote-buying have placed the nation on an economic collision course with reality. For all of his strutting, Chirac bears a strong similarity to Argentina's new president who is more concerned with establishing an EU-type union in South America and reclaiming the Falkland Islands from Britain than he is about the $141 Billion in Foreign debt that Argentina has defaulted on. Nero appears to be the role model for these fools who would rather continue to fiddle while their empires burn and collapse. The question is, when will the voters in these countries awaken from their trance and face facts?
20 posted on 09/29/2003 5:12:46 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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