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France writes itself off as arrogant failure: New books see a country in decline
The Times ^ | September 26, 2003 | Charles Brumner

Posted on 09/29/2003 12:14:26 AM PDT by Timesink

September 26, 2003

France writes itself off as arrogant failure

by charles brumner

New books see a country in decline

FRANCE is a nation in decline, blind to its failings and living beyond its means while strutting with empty arrogance on the world stage.

That may sound like the standard Francophobe rant from across the Channel or the Atlantic but it is, surprisingly, a view gaining ground in France.

Doubts about Gallic supremacy have been a periodic feature of France for centuries. They have now returned, fed by economic gloom and amplified by bestselling books. France, according to the thesis, has been overtaken by Britain and others because it atrophied as a centralised welfare state in the 1970s.

Before leaving to lecture the United Nations on the superiority of the French world view this week, President Chirac was forced to respond to the doom-mongers with a morale-boosting speech. France was bursting with health, he insisted to a provincial au- dience. In Paris, the claim was given as much credence as his line that “France has no quarrel with the United States”.

Jean-Pierre Raffarin, the Prime Minister, hammered home his boss’s message this week, saying: “I do not believe that France is in decline.”

The words of the now unloved Prime Minister were undermined yesterday when he unveiled a 2004 budget that expects minimal growth, takes national debt up to record level and busts a hole in the EU’s ceiling for public deficits for a third successive year.

Big corporate bankruptcies and spring strikes by the public sector and entertainment workers preceded a summer of forest fires and a heatwave that was officially blamed yesterday for 14,800 deaths.

The mood is being fanned by three books which argue that there is nothing temporary about France’s troubles. With its chronic unemployment and dinosaur centralised state, France can no longer pose as a universal model of progress and civilisation, they argue. In L’Arrogance Française, Romain Gubert and Emmanuel Saint-Martin, both journalists, say that France infuriates the rest of the world with its discredited diplomacy.

In Adieu à la France qui s’en va (Farewell to a France that is departing) Jean-Marie Rouart, a novelist and member of the august Académie Française, says that France is losing its soul to mediocrity and needs a great leader to restore its grandeur. The biggest splash is being made by La France Qui Tombe (Collapsing France) by Nicolas Baverez, an historian and economist.

Baverez says that, after three postwar decades of progress, France lost its way under the fourteen-year left-wing reign of François Mitterrand and eight years under M Chirac. Hostages to tyrannical state sector unions, farmers, subsidised film-makers and other interest groups, successive governments have squandered national wealth and heritage to maintain a protectionist, Soviet-style state, he says.

He also draws unfavourable comparisons with Britain, the favourite destination for French emigrants in the past decade. British per capita income has overtaken that of France, where taxes are now much higher. Britons pay 45 per cent of their income to the state in taxes, compared with 75 per cent for the French. Baverez says that Britain has taken over the European Union, monopolising its top jobs and imposing a British stamp on the new draft constitution. France, in turn, has alienated its neighbours by playing fast and loose with the EU rules.

Abroad, M Chirac’s posturing had made a laughing stock of France. “In the Iraq crisis, France has suffered a diplomatic Agincourt,” he says.

France faces a choice, Baverez concludes: “Shock therapy that will modernise the country through a forced march” or the pursuit of decline that will produce social upheaval and feed the far Right of Jean-Marie Le Pen. France, he says, is ripe for a near-revolutionary change such as when it summoned Charles de Gaulle as its saviour in 1958.

The Left is accusing him of “declinism”, an old right-wing obsession that fed Fascism in the 1930s. Attacks are also coming from the Right. Figaro said: “This mood of ‘francopessimism’ is creating an unhealthy atmosphere which carries the stigma of the 1930s.” But, it added: “The roots of the evil are in our statist culture, something that the British threw out ages ago.”

The bulk of the reaction, holds that Baverez makes good points but neglects France’s qualities, such as the reforms that have opened markets, its place as Europe’s top recipient of foreign investment, and a quality of life that remains the envy of the world.

A powerful defence of the decline thesis came in Le Monde from Marc Fumaroli, an eminent historian and a professor at the University of Chicago, who said that France, for all its undoubted glories, was suffering from a general “irritation, frustration and demoralisation” that was more bitter and deep than anywhere else in Europe or in the US.

Deprived of a leader with the vision of Thatcher, Reagan or Blair, it had been left to stagnate, he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; europelist; france; frencharrogance; frenchfrogs; powellwatch; rumsfeldpinglist
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To: AntiGuv
Must..stifle..giggling..mmmfff..
21 posted on 09/29/2003 5:18:44 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ain't Skeered...)
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To: WRhine
The reason, as you already know, is that socialism = power over the people. Way too many people need a government breast to suck in order to help make them feel warm and fuzzy.


22 posted on 09/29/2003 5:25:36 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Timesink
If things don't go well for Davis in California, there's always France.
23 posted on 09/29/2003 5:25:39 AM PDT by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (Foe Hammer!)
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To: DustyMoment
You are so correct. See below link for article by Paul Johnson, some story, different words.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990503/posts

I have visited France and Germany 3 times over the last year, business travel, but a few days of fun mixed in. They will not change; they have it pretty good, clean streets, comfortable lifestyle, do not need to work too hard.

They are heading for major upheaval as their system is unsupportable. Furthermore, especially the French, have made no real friends, other than the Islamists. When the reckoning comes, it will be very painful.

25 posted on 09/29/2003 5:36:26 AM PDT by schu
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
but, what about their trains, cheese, and vacations? Aren't those the three most important things in modern life?
26 posted on 09/29/2003 5:37:13 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: reagan_fanatic
This is why people love the musical "Les Miserables". Full of dead Frenchmen...and whores.
Just like the country.
27 posted on 09/29/2003 5:39:00 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: DustyMoment
France is Europe's California

Excellent analogy.

28 posted on 09/29/2003 5:39:04 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: gathersnomoss

Did you notice the reference to Reagan and Thatcher? How blessed we were to have these two giants heading the US and England! They truly changed history, and their legacies are still influencing the world. Too bad the history books for our children will never mention this, though I'm sure they will be told all about the great Clinton legacy. Just wait and watch.
29 posted on 09/29/2003 5:40:53 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Timesink
"a quality of life that remains the envy of the world."

Tell that to 15,000 people who died of heat stroke. Tell the French that America's children have a full set of teeth in their mouth because they go to the dentist, a part of your medical system which is lacking.

Mention to a few of the french that the lowest 25% of Americans live in larger homes and have more income than their middle class.

Suck eggs france.

30 posted on 09/29/2003 5:46:52 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: DainBramage
"France surrenders to the truth."

That is beautiful

31 posted on 09/29/2003 5:47:08 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: OrwellWasRight
Perhaps from the article Timesink posted? You know, the article that began this thread?
32 posted on 09/29/2003 5:53:22 AM PDT by Bennett46
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To: Timesink
"doubts about Gallic supremacy have been a periodic feature of france for centuries".
They have been a constant fact in the rest of the world,for centuries. Better give your kids' some more wine before they read this book,frenchy.
33 posted on 09/29/2003 5:53:45 AM PDT by Redcoat LI
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To: Timesink
said that France, for all its undoubted glories, was suffering from a general “irritation, frustration and demoralisation”

Le malaise de Jimmy Carter...c'est la même chose...

34 posted on 09/29/2003 5:58:08 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: DeFault User
dang i just love good news in the morn!!!!!!!
35 posted on 09/29/2003 6:03:07 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Timesink
It's the big one, Elizabeth!!!! (Thump)
36 posted on 09/29/2003 6:11:29 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Timesink
I thought 75% was the maximum rate of taxation in France.
37 posted on 09/29/2003 6:11:52 AM PDT by ampat
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To: DustyMoment
Nero appears to be the role model for these fools who would rather continue to fiddle while their empires burn and collapse.

You have a way with words, a good writing talent.

One other thing I noticed in the article, was that there wasn't one comment about the growing French Muslim population, which is increasingly resisting assimilation.

38 posted on 09/29/2003 6:39:02 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Timesink
"Jean-Marie Rouart, a novelist and member of the august Académie Française, says that France is losing its soul to mediocrity and needs a great leader to restore its grandeur."

Oh yes. That solution has worked out so well in Europe in the past couple centuries, hasn't it?
40 posted on 09/29/2003 7:17:33 AM PDT by Paladin2b
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