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Kay: Two Iraqi WMD Scientists Shot for Helping U.S.
Reuters ^ | 10/3/03 | Tabassum Zakaria

Posted on 10/03/2003 4:12:32 PM PDT by Mark Felton

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two Iraqi scientists were shot in Baghdad after they talked to the U.S.-led team hunting weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and others believe they will be in danger if they collaborate in the search, Washington's chief weapons inspector David Kay said on Friday.

Kay, who is directing the WMD hunt as an adviser to the CIA, presented an interim report to U.S. lawmakers this week that said no banned weapons had yet been found.

Some Iraqi scientists have sought relocation in the United States out of fear for the safety of their families, and others who want to stay in Iraq seek security guarantees, Kay told reporters on a conference call. "They believe they are in genuine danger ... if they collaborate with us," he said.

One scientist was "assassinated literally hours after meeting" with a member of the WMD-hunting team, killed by a single shot to the back of his head outside his apartment, Kay said. There were no signs of robbery.

Another scientist, who was "really golden for us," was shot six times but survived, he said. Kay declined to name them.

"The scientist who took six bullets was ... key to starting our understanding of the biological weapons program and pointing us in the direction of others," he said. His nephew was also shot in the incident a month and a half ago, Kay said.

"We engaged in a lot of conversations with him. We perhaps were not as sensitive to his security needs as now in retrospect we realize we should have been," he said.

"It's very difficult to conduct clandestine meetings in Iraq when you have to go pick people up because ... transport was hard to come by."

But Kay said cooperation from Iraqis, inside and outside detention, has increased. "This is an intelligence-led operation, we are absolutely dependent on the cooperation of Iraqis to help us discover the complete truth about the WMD programs," he noted.

SURPRISED AT NO FIND

During the war launched in March, Kay said he had feared that the Iraqi military would use chemical weapons on U.S.-led forces and was surprised that no such weapons were found soon afterward.

"I think all of us who entered Iraq expected the job of actually discovering deployed weapons to be easier than it has turned out to be," he said.

Kay was also surprised by an extensive lab network found embedded in the Iraqi Intelligence Service, which was not declared to U.N. inspectors and the extent to which Iraq had moved ahead in its missile program.

The WMD hunters have about five to six hypotheses about why the banned weapons have not been found, Kay said.

They include that WMD or related material were moved to another country before war, hidden by people involved in the current resistance, or produced outside Iraq through "off-shore collaboration" -- a theory with "very little evidence."

Some Iraqis also contend that scientists deceived Saddam Hussein, by lying to the former Iraqi leader about conducting WMD activities so they could be rewarded, Kay said, adding: "The evidence for that one is also shaky."

Asked whether he believed WMD would eventually be found, Kay replied: "We're not out to prove anyone's brief or any reports, we're out to find the full truth about it and that's what I'm convinced we will do."

The team is also gathering information about foreign assistance to Iraq, which was mainly in the missile area and some dual-use areas, that involved North Korea and some European countries which he declined to identify.

It is also investigating multiple reports from Iraqis of WMD or weapons-related substances being moved across borders into Iran, Syria and Jordan.

"We have in several of the cases confirmed that there were actually movements on the date, on the route, to the locations they have identified," Kay said, adding that his team had no proof that it was WMD material being moved.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: assassinations; davidkay; executions; interimreport; iraq; iraqiscientists; kay; murder; scientists; scientistsdeaths; wmd
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1 posted on 10/03/2003 4:12:33 PM PDT by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
btt
2 posted on 10/03/2003 4:17:29 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: All
Lighten Up, Francis!
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3 posted on 10/03/2003 4:18:00 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Mark Felton
Another scientist, who was "really golden for us," was shot six times but survived, he said. Kay declined to name them.
Kay did reveal, however, that the scientist's code name was "Lucky."

4 posted on 10/03/2003 4:19:37 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike; Mark Felton
Geez, I certainly hope they give this guy US citizenship.

He and his family earned it fair and square.

Get him out of there, pronto!

D
5 posted on 10/03/2003 4:26:28 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: Mark Felton
Bump.
6 posted on 10/03/2003 4:28:51 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Mark Felton
The reason this war was fought is because of terrorism. Eventhough I think it was the majority of people think the WMD evidence was NOT strong enough to bring to the forefront to base this war on. Bush might have had plenty of reasons to go to war with Iraq, but WMD should not have been the targeted reason.

It doesn't even matter now if WMD are found, it's too late!! With the drop in recent polls Bush is going to find that people are not going to have confidence him because of the stupidy he has shown on this issue.

7 posted on 10/03/2003 4:30:03 PM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: Mark Felton
It is also investigating multiple reports from Iraqis of WMD or weapons-related substances being moved across borders into Iran, Syria and Jordan.

"We have in several of the cases confirmed that there were actually movements on the date, on the route, to the locations they have identified," Kay said, adding that his team had no proof that it was WMD material being moved.

This says: Several Iraqis have told them of shipments of WMDs across borders. U.S. Intelligence (satellite probably IMHO) have confirmed that shipments of SOMETHING occurred on the date, time and route claimed by the Iraqis but that same Intelligence cannot confirm the contents.

Coming from multiple Iraqi sources that is pretty good evidence that material was moved and that material was in all liklihood WMD related. Not a slam dunk but getting closer to the truth.

8 posted on 10/03/2003 4:30:35 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Howlin
Another one for your ping list, I think.
9 posted on 10/03/2003 4:33:12 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Mark Felton
Two Iraqi scientists were shot in Baghdad after they talked to the U.S.-led team hunting weapons of mass destruction in Iraq

This is so weird. Why on earth would they be shot for "helping" the U.S. team find what we all now know doesn't exist? /sarcasm

10 posted on 10/03/2003 4:38:55 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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What is weirder is how the scientists were not protected....talk about incompetancy. Is Homer Simpson running this operation?
11 posted on 10/03/2003 4:45:56 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Mark Felton
This is an intelligence-led operation...

Based on the CIA's performance the last couple of years, that's what worries me.

12 posted on 10/03/2003 4:46:45 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Mark Felton
It is also investigating multiple reports from Iraqis of WMD or weapons-related substances being moved across borders into Iran, Syria and Jordan.

If anything, George Bush should be hammered for uselessly dithering many months away foolishly listening to the Democrats and the UN, thereby allowing Saddam to get the stuff cleanly out of the country.

So, now he is being mercilessly hammered by his political enemies because nothing is "there"!

You'd think a man as smart as Bush would get tired of being sucker-punched by these hypocritical slimeballs. But, his record shows he continues to bravely line up his chin and their fists for another round.

14 posted on 10/03/2003 4:57:00 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Destro
The absolute idiocy of making this information public just blows my mind. Is this guy a clone of Hans Blix?
15 posted on 10/03/2003 4:57:10 PM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Destro
What is weirder is how the scientists were not protected....talk about incompetancy.

Well, that is weird too. But in all fairness, incompetence is not the only possible explanation. Limited-resources could be another explanation. Or (most likely) some combination of the two.

In any event, all that is still not so weird as is the fact that there are apparently people so worried about Iraqian scientists revealing something that doesn't exist to the Americans, that they are willing to kill them over it.

16 posted on 10/03/2003 4:57:40 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: All
The report is only a well constructed summary. There's also the documentation behind this report. I can just imagine the boxes of documents and also the "valuable" people who are involved.

It makes me think of Kelly who would have been back in Iraq three weeks after the date of his death. He was considered "Golden", too.

17 posted on 10/03/2003 4:58:53 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Mark Felton
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18 posted on 10/03/2003 4:59:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Mark Felton
God bless those Iraqis who are putting their lives on the line for us. If not for these brave men and women, our troops would be in grave danger, far beyond what we are seeing today.

May the truth be set free.
19 posted on 10/03/2003 5:05:20 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: Destro
Is Homer Simpson running this operation?

WMD = Weapons of Mass D'oh!

20 posted on 10/03/2003 5:07:40 PM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell (Hillary walks into a bar. Let's hope it leaves a nice bump on her forehead.)
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