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So much for the "spirit of Vatican 2". For more on what Vatican 2 actually said on this subject: http://www.latin-mass-society.org/sanct.htm
1 posted on 05/25/2004 7:04:01 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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Mmmm... Rural western PA, thanks in great part to our bishop (Trautman), is a vanguard of this trend, and he has said this. Here we call it 'Consolidation'. Our local Catholic grade schools are united into one uber school, as a shining example to those not yet consolidated. In Erie, several consolidations of church and school have occured, I'm sure closings of the unused buildings are scheduled once the people get used to the changes. It's supposed to be about saving money and priest shortages. That's the word out at rel ed meetings and parish council meetings and such. The big concern is how to break it to the people and keep negative comments at bay. And, not surprisingly, many of the closed parishes and churches and their schools just happen to be the most devout, traditional and, often, most beautiful of all the local ones. Very sad.

It's just a cover, here, to root out and eliminate the 'old-fashioned' groups and assimilate them into the 'new' churches, with all their bland, generic, washed of all that is uniquely Catholic, new-agey Churches that remain. Sigh. Indeed, it's like their last stand, in the wake of the scandal, to make the last of their new age changes under the guise of 'healing'.

As an aside and not surprising, the recent Vatican clarifications of proper ways to celebrate Mass have only partially been enacted and many are openly hostile to Rome.

2 posted on 05/25/2004 7:43:15 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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I know one of Abp. Sanchez' relatives. They think he's innocent! A victim! He regularly visits NM incognito.


3 posted on 05/25/2004 7:44:21 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: AskStPhilomena; Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; ...

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4 posted on 05/25/2004 10:17:00 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: AskStPhilomena
One can no longer take another’s profession of Catholicism at face value. As one opinion poll and survey after another demonstrate, the majority of American Catholics have ceased to be believers in any Catholic sense since at least the late ‘70s, and are now effectively, if ignorantly, apostates.
5 posted on 05/25/2004 10:35:41 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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