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The Religiosity of liberals: Which speak louder, actions or words?
CNN, The Miami Herald, House Democrat Leader website, Pirate21 | 11/11/2004 | Pirate21

Posted on 11/11/2004 12:31:06 PM PST by Pirate21

Excerpts from Nancy Pelosi's remarks on the child tax credit at the Call to Renewal prayer gathering in Washington, DC, on Tuesday, June 10, 2003: "The Bible tells us that to minister to the needs of God's creation, and that certainly includes our children, is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made them. It is hard to tell where an act of worship ends in the Congress because we all think we are here to do the Lord's work."

"As we hearken to what the Gospel of Matthew says about ministering to the needs of the least of our brethren, know that it is an act of worship to minister to those needs." (referring to Matthew 25:40) "The Gospel of John says: 'Dear children, let us love not in word or speech, but in deed and in truth.'" (Actually, that's 1 John 3:18, not the gospel of John.) [Source: House Democrat Leader website]

Excerpts from John Kerry's remarks at the New North Side Baptist Church in St. Louis, MO, on Sunday, March 28, 2004: "The Scriptures say, what does it profit, my brother, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?" (referring to James 2:14) He went on to say: "When we look at what is happening in America today, where are the works of compassion?" (said in reference to "our present national leadership", a.k.a. the Bush administration) [Source: Miami Herald]

Nancy Pelosi on CNN Wolf Blitzer Reports, Wednesday, November 03, 2004: BLITZER: Let's go to Capitol Hill now, get some reaction from the House Democratic leader, Nancy Pelosi of California. I'll ask you the same question, Congresswoman. What happened to the Democrats?

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: Well, last night was not a good night for Democrats. That's for sure. And I share Senator Dodd's view that, on some of the social issues, Democrats did not connect well enough with the American people. Certainly, Democrats are faith-filled. Certainly, we love our country and we're very patriotic. But, somehow or other, that did not come across, when 61 percent of those who are regular churchgoers voted for President Bush and when 22 percent of Americans gave its highest number to what determined their vote to issues relating to morality, more than the economy, more than terrorism.

So I believe that we have it within us. I know that many of the people who are in politics on the Democratic side do so according to the Gospel of Matthew and, indeed, the Bible. But we don't demonstrate it clearly enough. And faith is such an important part of the lives of most people in our country. They want to know that we identify with that.

[Source: CNN]

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My response? Actions speak louder than words. Why is it that liberals have to tell us that they are faith-filled and patriotic?

Does it occur to you that the "deeds" message is a liberal talking point; and that it is used to imply that conservatives' faith is not demonstrated by commensurate actions?

We see the deeds of the liberals; and if those deeds reflect that in which they have faith, then we worship different gods.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: deeds; faith; matthew; pelosi; politics

1 posted on 11/11/2004 12:31:09 PM PST by Pirate21
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To: Pirate21

"We see the deeds of the liberals; and if those deeds reflect that in which they have faith, then we worship different gods."

Gaia, perhaps?


2 posted on 11/11/2004 12:43:44 PM PST by NRA1995 (Free Republic Inaugural Ball II, here I come!!!)
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To: NRA1995
For liberals their religious faith is second. For example, for Jackson his political ends are first. The liberals have an agenda and expect the faithful and their faith to adapt to their belief in the worldly.

For example liberal Christians tell us that we cannot preach against homosexuality because we must love the sinner. By this logic we must forgive a serial killer and not put him in prison. We are to love the sinner, right? The presumption on their part is that homosexuals do not hurt people. Really? What about gays that adopt children? What kind of twisted reality will these kids be living under? God destroyed an entire town for "tolerating" homosexuality.

Pretending to have faith just doesn't cut it with most people. We can see through you guys. Kerry thought it was good enough to say he was born a Catholic and was an altar boy. Also good enough to say her served in Vietnam. But what matters is how one serves. Not if. That's not good enough. If pretending was enough why didn't the DNC run Sharpton as our next President? Why? Because they know he is a joke. And American knows he is a joke.

But I disagree that homosexuality was the key issue. I think it was stem cell research and abortion. After all life is being "created", and destroyed. Indeed saying one is a person of faith, and in the next breath saying they condone murder - well, what else is one to suppose other than they are lying or deceiving themselves in their first statement?
3 posted on 11/11/2004 1:38:16 PM PST by Lord Nelson
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To: NRA1995
The appeal of statism is you don't HAVE to minister to your bretheren and sisteren. You outsourse it to the government.

"As we hearken to what the Gospel of Matthew says about ministering to the needs of the least of our brethren, know that it is an act of worship to minister to those needs."

4 posted on 11/11/2004 7:40:35 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Before Matthew became a follower of Jesus he was a hated tax collector who cheated people in his tax collections. Figures the Dims would gravitate to Matthew, probably in his pre-Christian state.

From a website (http://tn.essortment.com/biblematthew_rbus.htm):

Matthew was a "publican" or tax collector for the Romans. Tax collectors made a good living. They were generally despised by their fellow Jews and merely tolerated by their Roman employers. Tax collectors were creative in finding ways to tax the people. Luke 3:13 states, "They overcharged [and] brought false charges of smuggling in the hope of extorting hush-money". Other ways of making money included taxes on axles, wheels, animals, roads, highways and admission to markets. Some even charged pedestrians taxes.


5 posted on 11/11/2004 10:06:16 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: NRA1995
Gaia, perhaps?

Yes, and themselves, and the love of money.

6 posted on 11/11/2004 11:32:39 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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