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To: mike182d

**...Like at the Last Supper when the Eucharist was instituted :-)**

But at the Last Supper, Christ blessed the wine and gave it to his disciples also, (Eucharistic Prayer III):

"When supper was ended, he took the cup. Again he gave you thanks and praise, gave the cup to his disciples, and said: 'Take this, all of you, and drink from it. This is the cup of my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting covenant. It will be shed for you and foa all so that sins may be forgiven. Do this in memory of me.'"


12 posted on 01/28/2005 7:15:06 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Agreed, but there are four cups that are partaken of in the Jewish feast of the Passover; this was one of them.

Interesting side note: Jesus does not drink the final cup of the passover feast, and thus conclude the passover, until He is on the cross and drink from the hysop branch, after which He says: "It is finished."
18 posted on 01/28/2005 7:25:38 AM PST by mike182d
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Christ's Apostles were Bishops. Bishops and priests have ALWAYS received under both species. They have to in order for the Mass to be valid.

The Apostles were PRIESTS. Your argument is the same exact one Protestants used during the revolt in the 16th century. It is exactly the same argument. It denigrates the sacred priesthood.


44 posted on 01/28/2005 8:28:13 AM PST by Mershon
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To: Salvation; mike182d
**...Like at the Last Supper when the Eucharist was instituted :-)**

But at the Last Supper, Christ blessed the wine and gave it to his disciples also, (Eucharistic Prayer III):

"When supper was ended, he took the cup. Again he gave you thanks and praise, gave the cup to his disciples, and said: 'Take this, all of you, and drink from it. This is the cup of my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting covenant. It will be shed for you and foa all so that sins may be forgiven. Do this in memory of me.'"

Luke 22:
[17] And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he said, "Take this, and divide it among yourselves;
[18] for I tell you that from now on I shall not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes."
[19] And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
[20] And likewise the cup after supper, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

I don't get your point. Of course it was Jesus who blessed both the bread and wine and passed them to His disciples.

Communion, as instituted by Jesus, was in two parts - seperate and distinct.

Paul, in his letter to the Church at Corinth, taught Communion in the same manner as had been taught by Jesus.

1 Corinthians 11:
[23] For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread,
[24] and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
[25] In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me."
[26] For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

Yes, the RCC teaches that Communion in one kind is ok. Jesus did'nt, nor did Paul teach it.

86 posted on 01/28/2005 9:25:27 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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