Posted on 04/14/2005 5:56:15 PM PDT by TheStickman
I know many priests who say that mortal sins are extremely rare and they never heard anybody confess a mortal sin in all their years as a priest.
BTW the Catholic Church grants funerals to divorced Catholics who remarry outside the Church. The Church says that they can't judge these people.
"I hope that helps."
Sure does, and that looks like a good catechism book, too.
Thanks much.
and that looks like a good catechism book, too
It's my favorite, I use it for my daughter's instruction.
"Add to the the fact that each time you call or leave a message or send an email you have to play *squeaky wheel* in order to get a response and you can understand why I wrote the inital post in the 1st place."
Maybe that's one of the ways that Satan is messing with you, trying to get you insecure and upset.
Try this one. It does good stuff for me.
Prayer To St. Michael The ArchAngel
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio;
contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.
Imperat illi Deus; supplices deprecamur: tuque,
Princeps militiae coelestis, Satanam aliosque spiritus
malignos, qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in
mundo, divina virtute in infernum detrude. Amen
Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,
be our safeguard and protection against the wickedness
and snares of the devil; may God rebuke him, we humbly
pray; and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by
the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil
spirits who wander through the world seeking the ruin
of souls. Amen.
"I know many priests who say that mortal sins are extremely rare and they never heard anybody confess a mortal sin in all their years as a priest."
That's confusing.
http://www.saintaquinas.com/mortal_sin.html
"The Church also tells us that the sins of anger, blasphemy, envy, hatred, malice, murder, neglect of Sunday obligation, sins against faith (incredulity against God or heresy), sins against hope (obstinate despair in the hope for salvation and/or presumption that oneself can live without God or be saved by one’s own power) and sins against love (indifference towards charity, ingratitude, and/or hatred of God) also constitute grave matter. This list of grave sins, is based on Jesus Christ’s interpretation of the gravity of the Ten Commandments. Grave sins can be classed as sins against God, neighbor and self, and can further be divided into carnal and spiritual sins (CCC 1853).
Four other sins are considered grave also. These sins not only offend God, but men as well. Thus these four sins are called "the sins that cry to heaven for vengeance" and are likewise mortal sins. These grave sins are:
The voluntary murder (Genesis 4:10)
The sin of impurity against nature –Sodomy and homosexual relations (Genesis 18:20)
Taking advantage of the poor (Exodus 2:23)
Defrauding the workingman of his wages (James 5:4)
Finally, the capital sins are also considered grave matter. These sins are vices and are defined as contrary to the Christian virtues of holiness. They are pride, avarice, envy, wrath, lust, gluttony, and sloth (acedia)."
It's not unusual for me to have to confess every one of these last seven in a single confession. Am I that much worse than the rest of you. I mean, I knew I was way back at the end of the pack, but...
I believe in an all-loving, all-forgiving God.
A contrite heart will redeem all sin.
I've known a few priests who don't believe hell is real, and who believe everyone goes to heaven, except for maybe right wing republicans. They're apostate, they've lost their faith.
Yours is a beautiful post. And thank you for a timely reminder.
I used to be a terrible worry-wart. To the point of making myself ill. No more. I offer so much up; I pray for help and assistance all the time. But I worry no more. Worry, is time waster, and achieves naught.
ME: Seems practical to me. It prevents the Host from dropping to the floor, for one thing.HE: And would that be so terrible?
ME: It’s something to be avoided, isn’t it?
HE: Is it?
ME: Father, about Hell —
HE: Kelly, I’ve simply outgrown my need for Hell. I believe in God’s unconditional love.
except for maybe right wing republicans
LOL.
You should post that as it's own thread. That priest reminds me of someone..., well actually quite a few people.
You do understand that a 'failed marriage' or even divorce does not prevent anyone from attaining and or remaining in full communion with the Church and retaining full access to the Sacraments? Certainly, if one is the cause of the conditions that brought about a divorce -repentance is necessary, along with all reasonable efforts toward reconciling.
As to 'disordered logic', there is no 'disordered logic' on the part of the Church regarding 'remarriage' -the Church considers one that has 'remarried' without a declaration of nullity (from the competent authority [tribunal]) from a previous marriage (always presumed valid) to be objectively living in adultery.
Are you serious? You give bad advice here -RE: the publicly proclaimed illegitimate internal forum genre of advice that only a dissenting prelate would advise. No act of contrition however perfect it might be absolves one who chooses to and remains in a state of persistant mortal sin; e.g adultery. I will be happy to provide authentic documentation should you wish to persist in spreading this fallacy...
For someone raised and taught the Catholic faith from birth or who knowingly understood the sacramentalness of marriage, I would agree with you 100%. For someone who wasn't, who never believed anything was Sacramental in life till AFTER the marriages, divorces and remarrriages had taken place...it doesn't make sense to me. It seems disordered to me, based on my understanding of the term.
Of course, this doesn't mean I don't appreciate the grave matter of my present marriage while we endure the seemingly endless annulment process. If I didn't respect the Church's stance on this issue I wouldn't be bothering with an annulment at all.
Correct, but you should have read the thread closer. See TheStickman's #11:
But do you mean that you are engaging in unlawful (that is, sinful) relations with your wife, and so cannot receive the Sacrament?No, I don't. I mean that we are not allowed to come into the Church at all until the annulments are granted.
TheStickman's stating at the beginning that he's doomed to hell confused me too, but all he means is that he's under the impression that he can't CONFESS his sins, not that he's still living in adultery.
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