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Lutheran "Renewing Worship" Hymns released, with predictable revisions
American Lutheran Publicity Bureau ^
| 26 July AD 2005
| David Baer
Posted on 07/27/2005 8:18:11 PM PDT by lightman
I noticed that the hymn proposals for the "new primary resource" are available online at the Renewing Worship web site. Just in time for them to say that they have been made widely available before the Churchwide Assembly.
www.renewingworship.org/about/proposal/pdf/Hymns.pdf
In a quick look at the proposal, there are some suggested changes in tune and text that I like. For the most part it preserves what has been known in LBW and WOV.
The changes are predictable:
-- Those nasty words like "Lord" have been purged when possible (For example, see "For the Beauty of the Earth.")
-- That nasty "F" word has been eliminated when possible (For example, in "Come Thou Almighty King" verse 1, "Father All Glorious" is now "Maker all glorious." In "In Heaven Above" "Where God our Father dwells is now "where God forever dwells."
-- Those nasty male pronouns have been purged when possible. (For example, see "Earth and All Stars, " "Come Ye Thankful People, Come" "Hallelujah! Jesus Lives" "Let All together praise our God"
-- Those nasty references to men have been eliminated. "As With Gladness Men of Old" has been changed to "As With Gladness Travelers Bold."
-- Those nasty capital letters for God have been removed where the LBW left them. For example, see "Prince of Peace" in "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" and "Persons" in "Holy, Holy, Holy"
-- Some "exciting new translations" have been tragically proposed. (For example, see "A Mighty Fortress" (rhythmic) and "All Creatures Worship God Most High" (replaces "All Creatures of Our God and King)." "Jesus, My Sweet Pleasure, Perfect, Joyful Leisure" replaces "Jesus Priceless Treasure" (also gone is LBW 458 tune).
-- Some beautifully poetic and profound theological texts have been detroyed. For example, in "Alas! And Did My Savior Bleed," verse 3, "When God, the mighty maker, died For his own creatures' sin" has been changed to ". . . for all creation's sin." "Lamb of God, Pure and Sinless, Once on the cross an offering" becomes "Lamb of God, Pure and Sinless A Tree Your Limbs Suspending."
They have left most memorable texts alone for the sake of avoiding outright revolt.
A noted exception is "Away in a Manger." As a "theological revision" in verse 2, "But little Lord Jesus no crying he makes" is changed to "The little Lord Jesus our crying he takes." Maybe better theology but it will confuse generations of Lutherans who have memorized this text as children.
Given the consideration of the detail involved in these hymns and the other worship resources, the 2005 Assembly should postpone final approval at least until 2007 to allow the ELCA members a chance to respond or to suggest modifications to the proposed list or to proposed texts.
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There is slim hope that the release of this information before the August Churchwide Assembly may produce a backlash that will at least delay, if not stall the "Renewing Worship" project and the new ELCA hymnal.
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posted on
07/27/2005 8:18:12 PM PDT
by
lightman
To: TonyRo76
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posted on
07/27/2005 8:23:14 PM PDT
by
lightman
(The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
To: lightman
Lutherans trying to keep up with the Episcopal church?
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To: spycatcher
our crying he takes? That makes no sense.
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posted on
07/27/2005 8:30:23 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: TonyRo76
Of course we can no longer post this sign at Christmas (er, Sparkle Season/Winterfest):
Wise men still seek Him.
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posted on
07/27/2005 8:34:49 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
To: TonyRo76
Forgive you?
Love, ya, bro...that's the first time I laughed since reading this $*** earlier this evening.
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posted on
07/27/2005 8:43:00 PM PDT
by
lightman
(The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
To: lightman
"Earth and All Stars," This hymn is horrible anyway. Just my opinion. But changes to the classics really hurt.
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posted on
07/27/2005 8:48:40 PM PDT
by
Colonel_Flagg
(Skol Vikings.)
To: lightman; TonyRo76; aberaussie
I said it before and I'll say it again:
Everyone should just vote NO to EVERY proposal at the CWA!!!!
Please pass this advice along to every CWA delegate--er, "voting member"--you can reach!!!!
Of course, if there is a resolution for Mark Hanson to resign, or other such counter-proposals from the long-suffering orthodox lay majority, vote YES!!!!
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posted on
07/27/2005 8:51:52 PM PDT
by
Honorary Serb
(Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
To: lightman; TonyRo76
No one can say "Jesus is Lord" except by the Holy Spirit!!!!
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posted on
07/27/2005 8:53:39 PM PDT
by
Honorary Serb
(Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
To: lightman
Just finishing the job they started with the Green hymnal:
Time, like an ever-rolling stream,
Bears all its sons away;
They fly, forgotten, as a dream
Dies at the op'ning day.
Became this:
Time, like an ever-rolling stream, soon bears us all away;
We fly forgotten, as a dream dies at the opning day.
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posted on
07/27/2005 9:35:56 PM PDT
by
SmithL
(There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
To: lightman
If it runs folks off to the Missouri or Wisconsin Synods before they can fall under the indoctrination of the liberals, then theses folks are (inadvertently, perhaps) doing good work. A lot of folks stay in the mainline churches because they are comfortable. When the liberals overreach and make folks uncomfortable, it inures to good.
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posted on
07/27/2005 11:15:39 PM PDT
by
PAR35
To: TonyRo76
Please place me somewheres on that Lutheran Ping thingy..
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posted on
07/27/2005 11:20:18 PM PDT
by
Experiment 6-2-6
(When the disbeliever sees this, he will say, 'How nice if I was also turned into sand.')
To: lightman
Meet the reason that I have recently switched to the Catholic church.
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posted on
07/28/2005 3:20:55 AM PDT
by
TXBSAFH
(The pursuit of life, liberty, and higher tax revenue (amended by the supreme 5).)
To: TXBSAFH; TonyRo76
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posted on
07/28/2005 4:15:22 AM PDT
by
lightman
(The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
To: lightman
In the LCMS, the influx of people from the ELCA is being met with suspicion at times. The worry of many pastors is that the new members will start to dilute the orthodoxy and practice of the LCMS.
Of course, Missouri has its own problems. We are very much divided on the Ablaze (Church growth and fad driven church stuff) movement, and there is a small but growing group of pastors and laypeople who want women's ordination. If the last happens, I may have to swim the Bosphours myself.
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posted on
07/28/2005 5:12:47 AM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: redgolum
Having left the ELCA for LCMS, I see the problems in LCMS as minuscule by comparison, but it pays to be vigilant.
It's also evident that those disgruntled with ELCA, while being correct in their displeasure with the homosexual issue, don't get the total picture. The synod's association with the NCC makes it impossible to "reform" the synod.
The ELCA has far larger problems than just the issue of homosexuality and many don't know it.
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