Posted on 08/08/2005 4:34:00 AM PDT by Quix
Oh, yeah, early August 2005 and an attack against NY is looming.
Thanks.
Quix is not back.
He's still banned. As far as we can tell, mostly for posting a prophecy which asserted that God used Katrina as judgment and claimed that America was the Biblical Babylon slated for heavy judgment. The New Orleans Mayor sort of said the same thing with impunity hereon! LOL.
He clearly irritated the religion forum powers that be as well as the evidently well connected dogmatic ones thereon.
So, he was told that he'd worn out his welcome hereon. Whatever that means.
I'd dearly like to see him reinstated. All the more so for his perceptive inputs in these trying times.
But some even hinted that his statements here put him at risk from mysterious forces.
I just greatly miss having his inputs on a diversity of topics here.
He's letting loose with folks on a UFO forum in somewhat usual style though moderated to a much calmer level. I don't see why he couldn't post that way on FR. Guess I have strong biased feelings about it all.
I was searching the forum to see if there was a thread on a prophetic topic or related to a source that Quix had given me this weekend. That produced this thread from back when. It was a poignant shock to see that Quix had started it.
Alas, he's sadly still banned.
You're not the only one feeling that way. Several have PMd me and privately e-mailed me expressing fear to comment and wishing he was back posting at FR. Someone evidentally hit the "abuse" button on his post and voila, Quix was bannished. Several of us communicate with him privately as a result of his banishment. Some still post here who have been banished in the past. Don't know if some banishments are just "time-outs" and some are serious forever rulings.
Yeah, I know.
I've tried to get him to write Jim Rob and he's willing but hasn't felt led to do it, yet. I think he feels that Jim Rob would just turn a deaf ear to his message even though he's donated from his meager cash while being banned with no evident hope of being reinstated.
I think he believes that naysayers have so poisoned Jim Rob's attitude toward him that there's no point in him pesonally saying anything to Jim.
I don't think theres a great risk in folks posting related to Quix as long as they don't stir the ire philosophically of certain mods and forum "pets" who are most rabid against his strongly stated philosophical views.
To me, it's particularly sad at this time with all the Al Qaeda, prophecy, Hillary etc. stuff flying around so freely and complexly. To even imply that Quix's values are askew from the core FREE REPUBLIC values is sheer silliness or cluelessness. No one is more functionally, faithfully, rationally patriotic about the USA than Quix.
And, I think his capacity to brainstorm practical ideas is virtually unparalleled on FR though he rarely to never was noted for that. And, his analysis of complex situations with a variety of slants was uncommonly good. He at least spoke well and vividly from the particular Christian group he's a part of. That very patriotic perspective has been missing from FR ever since he was banned. I consider that a serious loss given the battles we are all in.
I should hush or I'll rant more and more. I feel so strongly about it.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO GET IN TOUCH WITH QUIX, PLEASE let me know. He's happy to share his email addy.
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Today is Jan 24, 2006. The events prophesied did not occur. These folk are false prophets.
It's not my perspective.
And, I think your understanding of the traditional meaning of prophet in Hebrew literature and culture is more narrow than was the reality. I think it was a much more robust, rich term than you seem to think it was.
I was awakened at the time of the bombings, as well. My son was in London and should have been on that train, but he over slept. I awoke from a sound sleep and went directly to my computer, asking myself, why am I doing this, there is no one on Free Republic at 1:45 in the morning. The first thing I saw was the news of the bombings, before it was reported in the news. I was able to reach my son by cell phone, before the communications were over loaded. He had just left the train station, saying that they had shut down the train and he was not going to be able to get to work, the last day of his internship. He didn't know what had happened. I told him to go back to his apt and stay there. I was so relieved, it was a miracle that God had awakened me and allowed me that reassuarance. It was actually the second miracle, the first was that my son and his friends all over slept.
[Permission granted by the author of this, a believer and a person of prayer, to forward this.]
24 January 2006
To Forum Member: Thanks for your input. Am
responding below to the group on the thread, and
not just to you. There is that curious Scripture
about the demon (I think it was) answering God
that the demon would go and do the requested
deed.
But The Almighty God of The Bible is not a god
that he would lie.
As Spock articulated in the alternative universe
show -- a universe based on evil would
self-destruct in Stardate Umpteeump.
Life and reality are complex. There seem to be an
infinite number of facets on the diamond.
It is easy to assume that the facets in our view
are on one side or the other of OUR line or
criteria on this or that issue. We may not see
*our* error until we see the whole diamond.
It's easy for me, as well, to shake my head in
puzzlement about the non-event following the
prophecies.
However, it still remains that I have no
explanation for the children's visions and other
factors with this packet of prophetic inputs. You
folks who are posting on the forum here think
your explanation that it's all hogwash, silly,
deluded, evil, etc., is valid. I can understand
your positions and feelings. Very understandable
-- especially from your perspectives.
But I'm not at all willing to take a meat axe in
judgment to arrive at a seemingly tidy (but
inadequate) explanation.
I shall continue to consider the jury still out
until and unless God Himself helps me understand
all the above FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE because HIS
PERSPECTIVE is the only one that counts.
You are framing all this from your perspective
and your standpoints. Understandable. We all do.
You conclude that you have all or sufficiently
close to all the information necessary for such a
stance. I don't.
FRAMING -- Framing an issue, situation or reality
is crucial. We can frame a picture and see only a
tiny pine tree. We can frame the same picture and
see a mountain. We can frame it again and see a
range of mountains, or even a continent ... a
globe, a solar system. The larger-scoped frames
do not alter the truth of the lone pine tree. But
it sure does bring a host of other factors into
the picture.
I don't think we know much more about the
situation with the prophecies and the non-events
than maybe an acre's worth of facts around the
lone pine tree. That's likely too few facts to
form the hard rigid judgments that are being made
on this forum.
I do know that more disturbing times in my life
than I like to remember, God has done some very,
very, very curious things to get me into the kind
of space that was necessary to deal with this or
that aspect of my psyche or spirit or person or
maturity (rather lack of). In my younger years
I'd have declared that God would never do such a
thing. But whether one says He allowed it or did
it, He brought it about. And, the result was
beneficial. And, it was true to His righteous
character all along the way whether I thought so
at the time, or not.
Not one of us is in a position to judge God
whether we think we are, or not.
There are many paradoxes in life. Some look like
blazing, brazen contradictions. In my experience,
that's usually because we cannot see the whole
picture. Some facets of the diamond look blue and
others red because of our perspective. God's
perspective is very different.
That does NOT mean we end up with a rubber Bible.
It does mean we ought to maintain some serious
humility whenever we feel inclined to judge God.
I would be quick to judge some of the prophetic
folks if I felt it were warranted. Many of my
close friend believers I've fowarded such to have
certainly already judged them as you folks have
done. I personally don't feel that's called for
in this situation. I have detected no conscious,
deliberate or even deluded hoakiness.
That does not mean I understand or know how to
explain how things turned out. It merely means I
have no need to come down in a black/white harsh
way on the issue at present. I don't know enough.
You think you do. I can understand that. But for
myself, I just don't know enough so I will
withhold judgment.
I'm certain that God WILL HAVE the LAST WORD on
the matter and IN HIS TIME and IN HIS
WAY--whatever that will be.
There are certainly secular news items which
still indicate that the world is getting locked
more and more fully into a situation that only
great trauma will relieve. I'll post shortly in
this thread a doc about Iran threatening to SEAL
OFF THE PERSIAN GULF.
There are other reports of deepening,
intensifying moves by Russia, China, etc., which
clearly are along lines of Biblical prophecies
headed toward a major conflagration.
The non-events of 23 January do not at all
indicate that we should go back to naive
lullabies. Doing so would be very ill-advised.
Somehow I'm reminded of the curious Scripture
about Moses changing God's mind. That's somewhat
of a mind-bending, mind-boggling thought in and
of itself -- that God would change His mind for
any reason and that a man could influence God's
mind to change is a whole 'nother level of
boggling.
I don't know for certain that such happened here
with the intercessory prayers. However, I do know
that the Dallas area sure had a lot of prayer
going up. I do know that such earnest, heart-felt
prayers do change things.
My personal perspective had been and remains that
the bulk of the things predicted were to be
spread out over the next however many months AND
that no amount of prayer would more than moderate
or delay them. That, essentially, sooner or
later, they will transpire.
I still feel that way. I really do not doubt
that, at all.
I have felt for several years that I wanted to
get back to [xxxx] before the world started falling
apart, and then I couldn't get back there due to
circumstances beyond my control. I still feel
that's valid -- especially from a natural
perspective.
Alongside of that, I've begun to feel that God
will get me back there in His ways and timing for
His purposes which may be different than I
imagined them to be. He's certainly capable of
transporting me there any number of ways in any
kind of situation or condition.
At the moment, if I HAD to guess, I'd guess that
God was somewhat moved by prayer and somewhat has
decided to do things a bit differently because of
unknown factors on the geopolitical, spiritual
world stage. I don't know how to explain that.
Wouldn't God have known what was going to change
and what prayers were going to go up? Certainly.
I don't know how to explain it. It's just a mild
to moderate conjecture.
Sometimes I want to yell at God about "2,000
years soon" is rather ridiculous; and that, given
His timelessness, He must not understand our
perspective on time if He can write in His Word
that Jesus is coming back -- essentially 2,000
years -- soon.
But I know in my heart it's a somewhat silly
thought. God understands us thoroughly -- even
about our perspective on time versus His.
At this point, I remain convinced that the bulk
of those sources heard and heard accurately from
God. Something happened or there was "something"
about the timing. Seems wrong. Looks wrong.
Sounds wrong. Feels wrong from a certain type of
reasonable, normal perspective. Easy to label it
"false prophet-ish". But I don't believe that's
so. I don't know how to explain that.
I still choose to 'allow' God to be God. He's God
and I'm not. He owns everything. I don't. He has
all the power. I don't. He knows what He's doing.
I occasionally think I do.
*** +++ ***
Written by a believer and person of prayer
USA
Eva, thank you for sharing this.
Though in September 2004, Quix was permanently banned from FR due to being accused of being unpatriotic for posting a doc that stated Hurricane Katrina was a judgment of God, his contributions are worthwhile in FReeperVille.
I have asked Quix to write Jim Robinon asking for reinstatement, but so far Quix has not felt led to do so.
Quix is sorely missed. FR's not the same without him.
Thanks again for sharing.
God Bless,
JM
Though in
*** September 2005 ***
Quix was permanently banned from FR due to being accused of being unpatriotic for posting a doc that stated Hurricane Katrina was a judgment of God, his contributions are worthwhile in FReeperVille.
Quix is sorely missed, it's not the same without him.
Hey, the man should be re-instated because he is in good company now. The mayor of New Orleans, as well as Robertson, have both made similar statements.
The man was banned for stating a belief??
Perspective has nothing to do with it, unless you are going to 'spiritualize' the non-literal fulfillment away. They spoke forth an unconditional and literal judgment from God, by God. It didn't occur. As far as my understanding of the term goes, the prophets (and prophecy) of the new testament are under the same legitimate requirement (although being stoned is not one of them). If you want to blow off the old testament because it is Hebrew in cultural origin, you do so at great risk. Furthermore, the new testament writers were either Hebrews or supervised by them (Luke). Their relation of the term 'prophet' would naturally be within the cultural understanding of the old testament. My review of that term in the new testament show that the definition tends to be the same.
We are warned in the new testament to avoid false prophets. Therefore there has to be a standard of what 'true' is. Taking the instruction of the Bible as a whole, that 'true' is still the factual and actual fulfillment of the prophecy. Again, perception has nothing to do with it, proper biblical evaluation and accountability does. Continued false prophetic utterances given credence harms the body of Christ, not edifies it. And for you information, I am a pentecostal, I believe in the prophetic word and the richness thereof.
Hey, the man should be re-instated because he is in good company now. The mayor of New Orleans, as well as Robertson, have both made similar statements.
Precisely. And actually, he did not state it as being his opinion -- he posted a document from Bill Somers' website with the disclaimer that he didn't know what to make of it and hoped other FReepers would give their reactions.
As for his contributions, here's the link to look back at Quix's posts, which I happened to have on my drop-down menu when he was banned, so I could still see it even when the "Nobody by that name" screen appeared where his FReeper page would be:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=59556;more=27877068
Hi LN_MT,
The man wasn't banned for stating his belief, but for posting a doc from a different website that said Katrina was God's judgment. Quix asked for feedback. There had been more than 300 replies when the next day one FReeper complained it was unpatriotic.
Quix answered that he hoped Americans would prayerfully seek God's face as to how best to be patriotic for the sake of this beloved country so as to continue in His blessings.
Sadly, the "unpatriotic" label struck a nerve somewhere and Quix was permanently banned.
Quix loves the USA as much as any one of us. He is concerned that Americans have a fear and reverance for God.
That's very patriotic. Historically and currently.
FR could use Quix's presence now. I haven't given up hope that the ban will be lifted and he be reinstated.
JM
Wow...
I guess maybe I'm on the wrong website
Sigh. Free Republic is a good site. The BEST. And most FReepers would hold to fearing and reverancing God.
I think it must have been a knee-jerk reaction somewhere in the FR powers that be to ban Quix when one lone FReeper labeled him unpatriotic.
I still hope to see it corrected.
Stay right here, no other website measures up to FR.
Good talkin' with ya.
[I was *born* in MT. But I don't wear a bandana. My dad was doing grad work at M-State.]
JM
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