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Yep, I'm absolutely shattered by the thought that there might be fewer homosexuals scouting out the altar boys and the catechism kids.

Whatever will we do?

1 posted on 09/29/2005 8:45:54 AM PDT by marshmallow
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I, like so many theologians, fellow priests, sisters, and Americans, find the Church's teaching regarding homosexuality inconsistent with the broader understanding of human dignity, respect and equality.

Aah, the missing 11th commandment. "All other rules, commandments, ethics, and morals don't apply when faced with a broad understanding of human dignity".

35 posted on 09/30/2005 12:05:09 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Benedict will bring the hammer down... he has no choice.
They have no clue what 'Religious Life' means... or the scriptures for that matter. It's giving up everything...everything, it's not what you want... but what God wants; Either you can deal with that or walk.
Time to clean house... when we have to share one good priest and we can't have mass until Sundays, when we have to walk for miles (like those in other countries), to go to Mass... maybe we will take our faith more seriously.
If anything goes... what's the point.


36 posted on 09/30/2005 12:37:16 PM PDT by AliVeritas ((Send Schumer's staff flowers for compassions sake))
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Does anyone actually take Bill McClellan seriously anymore?


37 posted on 09/30/2005 1:06:44 PM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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###"The Church chooses in matters of sexuality to bring very literal interpretations to isolated passages of Scripture as a proof-text for a static, narrow interpretation of natural law".####

St. Paul pulls no punches. The following is certainly not an isolated passage:

God's Wrath Against Mankind

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Best we pray for these souls.
38 posted on 09/30/2005 1:40:58 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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Every day, the Church, which I love so much, appears in her words and actions more prejudiced, violent and evil toward gay persons.

So get out of the prejudiced, violent, evil thing, "Father." The Episcopal Church can always use some ex-Catholic priests. In fact, you can even be a bishop!

41 posted on 09/30/2005 3:03:52 PM PDT by madprof98
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find the Church's teaching regarding homosexuality inconsistent with the broader understanding of human dignity

It looks like the word dignity has been hijacked. As if that word will sanctify anything.

Death with dignity

Adultery with dignity

42 posted on 09/30/2005 3:08:26 PM PDT by iowamark
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Gay-hunters May End up Shooting Down Church Morale

Note that they assume that gays ARE the Church. Now it may be true that in some areas gay priests actually are in control. But, even so, priests do not constitute the Church.

43 posted on 09/30/2005 3:21:29 PM PDT by iowamark
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" discover that nearly 60 percent of my circle of priests friends were gay, too"

That is sick, hope it is not true.
44 posted on 09/30/2005 4:54:26 PM PDT by Delphinium
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