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To: Prophet in the wilderness

I didn't say that the wife is to be a slave. I'm saying that the instructions Paul is giving in Ephesians 5 and 6 are to husbands and wives, children and parents, and slaves and masters. And since they are all part of the same passage in the same letter, all the instructions should be treated the same. Either as timeless truths to be followed for all time, or as culturally relative instructions for a particular people of a particular time and culture.


16 posted on 04/17/2006 12:34:13 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Abigail Adams
I think what Paul is teaching is God's ordained order, and authority, and Governing authority.
I do not believe that Paul was trying to make the same case with husbands and wives as the case with slaves.
Paul was basically laying down a fundamental principle of authoritative order in the family and society.
We ( you and I ) are under the authority of our local, state, and federal government, and the Bible teaches us that those governmental authorities are under God's authority and direction regardless if they are Godly or not.
18 posted on 04/17/2006 12:44:12 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Abigail Adams
We can debate this and disagree, however, yes, that was a different time and culture, but ? do you honestly think that God would want the family unit, or structure to be different than what has lasted for thousands of years, and works if it is a Godly , loving family ?
Do you honestly think God wants wives to be rebellious towards him and their husbands ? do you honestly think God wants children to rebel towards their parents ( even though it's in the human nature to rebel against God and authority ).
The thing that caused Satan to fall is that he wanted to be as GOD or in the same seat or authority as God, and we know what happened to Satan.
That's the same kind of spirit that is in the feminist.
19 posted on 04/17/2006 12:56:49 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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