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To: Rurudyne

Remember that Satan has never fought God. He doesn't get to fight God. Gabriel and his forces have fought Satan and Satan has lost--every time and in the time it takes for a bolt of lightning to strike. While we have free will, God knows already and knew all along how it will turn out. It is not for us to know or understand why, as explained in the poetic Book of Job.


18 posted on 12/07/2006 8:42:49 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: RightWhale
Just a really obscure thought about The Book of Job:

I imagine that the text contains a point of condition to answer God's question to Satan in 1:7.

Naturally, God knew exactly where Satan had been and what he'd been up to; however, He asked him about it and Satan neglected to give a specific answer.

It is God who brings up Job in light of this question and we immediately see Satan on the attack as an accuser.

The thought I have about the text is that despite Satan's dodging the question, God may have so arranged things (in he text) that we can reasonably speculate where the fallen angel had recently been and what he'd been doing.

Satan might have been hanging out with Job.

Please bear with me. In chapter 29 Job recounts his former life right up to the time all these disasters befell him. Of particular interest is 29:18-25 that begins thusly:
Then I thought, "I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days as the sand. My root is spread out to the waters, and dew lies all night on my branch. My glory is ever new with me, and my bow is renewed in my hand."
This is a statement of pride which Job recounts to those around him. These words also fall at the exact dividing point where Job stops speaking of his former days and starts speaking of his current plight.

So this is my supposition: right after this event is when Satan enters into God's presence intent on accusing Job who may have just been tempted to be prideful based on his circumstances––as if Job was responsible for these.

In this light, Job's plight may be comparable to Nebuchandnezzar's in some respects.
19 posted on 01/06/2007 10:25:22 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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