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Mass in the round (Renovation manipulation continues under Fr. Vosko's lead )
Post Star ^ | June 11, 2007 | MADELINE FARBMAN

Posted on 06/12/2007 5:48:47 AM PDT by NYer

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To: kosta50
But you do realize that a priest has no power without a bishop...what does his bishop say? Who is his bishop, and why is no one talking to him?

Bishop Hubbard is one of the worst of the AmChurch bishops. He's a diocese destroyer and I think he was one of Jadot's crop from the late '70s that was put in at an early age. He has done immeasurable damage to his diocese, but I guess we should count our blessings that he wasn't moved around or made a cardinal at any point.

That said, I feel truly sorry for the remaining Catholics in Albany. Were I in his diocese, I'd probably be a Byzantine rite Catholic or a Maronite.

If you want to get some idea of what a sordid mess the Albany diocese is, do the following search:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=minkler+hubbard+albany+suicide
41 posted on 06/12/2007 1:06:55 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: NYer

barf


42 posted on 06/12/2007 1:15:39 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: NYer

He seems to be trying to imitate St. Peter’s with the oval altera podium aurrounded by pews. But lokk what that is doing to the churches! Shocking.


43 posted on 06/12/2007 2:15:51 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Antoninus

Wow, that is some predicament. The Catholic Church in the West should have listened to St. Cyprian when he argued for lay removal of bishops, something that has been practised in the East for the lonest time.


44 posted on 06/12/2007 2:23:45 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Wow, that is some predicament. The Catholic Church in the West should have listened to St. Cyprian when he argued for lay removal of bishops, something that has been practised in the East for the lonest time.

Uh, not without the occasional riots...or worse. In the case of Hubbard, I think I'd be up for a good riot to get him out of there, frankly.
45 posted on 06/12/2007 2:26:18 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: trisham
Ugly.
I've played basketball in more architecturally pleasing gyms.

And the sound of a piano, is so un-Mass like...
Gregorian Chant and, separately, some organ music is all that is needed.

46 posted on 06/12/2007 2:29:47 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: Tax-chick
"You're looking at each other, you know, instead of having everybody look at a back."

It strikes me as very ironic that while it is true that in this situation a person is looking at the faces of many people, at least half of the congregation is not looking at the face of the priest. Does this mean that those people supporting this nonsense would be okay with Mass celebrated in the way it was prior to the Council, with everyone facing the same direction as the priest? Something tells me not.

47 posted on 06/12/2007 2:49:18 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: vox_freedom

I like piano.


48 posted on 06/12/2007 3:35:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Oh, a Queen may love her subjects in her heart, and yet be dog-wearied of ’em in body and mind.")
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To: cothrige

Maybe the priest revolves slowly, counterclockwise, about the altar as the Mass progresses.

This would cause my sons to shout, “He’s rotating! Father is rotating! He’s a planet!” And then they would Zot him with their beeber-like devices.


49 posted on 06/12/2007 3:37:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Oh, a Queen may love her subjects in her heart, and yet be dog-wearied of ’em in body and mind.")
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To: Tax-chick

LOL! I need to get one of those beeber-like devices.


50 posted on 06/12/2007 3:38:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

TV remote, cell phone, pocket calculator ... anything can be a beeber-like device in the hands of a clever child.

Pat can Zot Father and communicate with his mother ship in orbit. Fortunately, Father is *very* hard of hearing. James discovered the amplifier control board during Mass one day, and bellowed, “James wants that really big Sound Beeber! James WANTS IT!”


51 posted on 06/12/2007 3:42:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Oh, a Queen may love her subjects in her heart, and yet be dog-wearied of ’em in body and mind.")
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To: Tax-chick
I like piano.

I like sushi, but don't have it for breakfast.

52 posted on 06/12/2007 5:02:07 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: NYer

After reading the article you posted, I think our parish church (newly built) was designed by Vosko or one of his ilk. The advertising outreach they do is “let us hear your story.” I went back for the first time in six years or so on Ash Wednesday and was reminded why we left.

We go to a traditional church with traditional architecture - may we never be assigned a priest who loathes tradition.

Mrs VS


53 posted on 06/12/2007 5:48:08 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: vox_freedom

That’s one way of looking at it.

I like piano for Mass.


54 posted on 06/12/2007 6:25:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Oh, a Queen may love her subjects in her heart, and yet be dog-wearied of ’em in body and mind.")
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To: Tax-chick

Set you phasers on stune?


55 posted on 06/12/2007 6:28:29 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Jaded

You can’t stune a deaf Irish priest. If it were possible, Pat and James would have done it!


56 posted on 06/12/2007 6:30:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Oh, a Queen may love her subjects in her heart, and yet be dog-wearied of ’em in body and mind.")
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To: NYer

and so the slippery slope away from Ad Orientem continues...I imagine the next step will be to remove the altar entirely, then the tabernacle...


57 posted on 06/13/2007 1:12:54 AM PDT by baa39 (Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.)
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To: redhead

German Star Trek Church:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1847220/posts


58 posted on 06/13/2007 12:20:28 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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