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Padre Pio and the Mother Co-redemptrix(CATHOLIC CAUCUS)
http://www.motherofallpeoples.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1128&Itemid=40 ^ | Sept 8,2007 | Fr. Stefano Maria Manelli, F.I.

Posted on 09/10/2007 6:18:13 AM PDT by stfassisi

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To: Salvation

Did you ever notice that caucuses are the shortest of threads?


21 posted on 09/10/2007 9:33:59 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: Pyro7480

Yeah, that was the one where some were permitted to come in and trash the thread, the first such posting at #3 while there was no known reference to anything challenging anything. Then others maintained that the title alone was so inflammatory that , in essence, no rules applied. Just believing what we believe and saying so is an offense to some.


22 posted on 09/10/2007 9:36:26 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Just believing what we believe and saying so is an offense to some.

Apparently so, given some of the posts I saw on that thread.

23 posted on 09/10/2007 9:39:26 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Mad Dawg

Well, we could make our own caucus rules and post them at the top of caucus threads.

When a Catholic/Orthodox caucus thread is posted and the RM refuses to honor it for any reason, we Catholics can refuse to engage the crashers. We can pretend that they aren’t there.

I can say from my view that I have not seen one of their posts which made a significant and valid point. Their posts might mislead other non-Catholics but they can’t touch my faith.


24 posted on 09/10/2007 9:39:59 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Alex Murphy
The real question has got to be if Catholics call some schools of thought heresies, then is that a challenge?

Sure I know what the first reaction is, but it is part of our ecclesiology to think that schools of thought which conflict advisedly and intentionally on matters which the Catholic Church considers de fide are by definition heretical.

Further, the term Protestant is so equivocal, that it's hard to see how to use it as the name of a "Faith" or a "confession". Do we mean merely those who disagree with the Catholic understanding of the role of the See of Peter or do we mean those who hold some variety of Calvinism, or what?

If the first, then the term is synonymous (for Catholics) with heretic -- just as Catholicism is considered a bundle of heresies by Protestants.

If you add to that holding a link to be equivalent to the post, then, as I say, the Caucus designation is toast.

25 posted on 09/10/2007 9:41:59 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: DungeonMaster; Pyro7480; Salvation; Mad Dawg

I’m still interested in seeing a non-Catholic caucus that was immediately swarmed by Catholics.

For that matter, I would be interested in seeing ANY non-Catholic thread, OTHER THAN THOSE WITH INFLAMMATORY TITLES (i.e. “Proof that Peter wasn’t Pope”, which I know has never actually been a title, but you get the idea), that has been swarmed by Catholics.

Maybe I have blinders on, but I am not aware of Catholics on this forum seeking non-Catholic threads to attack the beliefs of Protestants.


26 posted on 09/10/2007 9:42:50 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: stfassisi; Alex Murphy; Mad Dawg; tiki; All
I went ahead and removed 8,9 and 19 which addressed other confessions so the caucus can be maintained. If you'd rather have it opened, let me know.

The material on a link counts. For instance, if the website from which an article is posted includes links to Jack Chick material, it will be pulled.

Likewise, on the News Forum, if the link includes pornographic material, it will be pulled.

As to consistency in the application of Religion Forum guidelines, please be advised that I was on vacation last week. The Admin Moderators on duty used their best judgment in handling the notoriously hot thread.

Moreover, we have a policy of "stare decisis" - so that moderators do not disturb actions previously taken by other moderators.

For the record, unless the title includes a direct affront the caucus will not be broken on my watch. It would take something like "Protestants are heretics [Catholic Caucus]" to fail the test.

27 posted on 09/10/2007 9:45:13 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: tiki

“... we Catholics can refuse to engage the crashers.”

We can try but I’m even being harrassed by FReepmail now by one of them.


28 posted on 09/10/2007 9:47:22 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: DungeonMaster
Yeah, thoughtful discussion is way harder than cheap shots. To respond to this post I have to read and cogitate. But when somebody accuses me for the umpty-umpth time of believing something like Mary is equal to Jesus, I can answer those with my eyes closed. Well, okay not with my eyes af caec adjn

See? A little touch-typing issue here.

29 posted on 09/10/2007 9:48:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: OpusatFR

Let me know the particulars by Freepmail - harassment via Freepmail is not allowed.


30 posted on 09/10/2007 9:48:53 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
The material on a link counts. For instance, if the website from which an article is posted includes links to Jack Chick material, it will be pulled.

Not to be confrontational, but this isn't quite clear.

Let's say hypothetically, a Catholic write writes something and in it he mentions Jack Chick hating Catholics and has an illustration of one of Chick's publications, would that be considered a link?

Hope you had a great vacation!

31 posted on 09/10/2007 9:49:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Religion Moderator

Sure thing.

Thanks.


32 posted on 09/10/2007 9:50:43 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

I suspect I know which one.


33 posted on 09/10/2007 9:50:46 AM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: Pennant -14)
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To: stfassisi

I hope the record is adequately clear here: None of this involves referring to Mary as “Redemptrix.” Claims to the contrary are false.


34 posted on 09/10/2007 9:52:46 AM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: Pennant -14)
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To: OpusatFR

I got a couple too. I just deleted them. They just wanted to get the last word in.


35 posted on 09/10/2007 9:52:57 AM PDT by tiki
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To: wagglebee
Yes, it would be pulled - we don't want Jack Chick discussed at all. Ditto for the false Jesuit Oath, theology of Christian Identity/KKK/Aryan Nations, anti-Semitism, attempts to equate any confession with Islamic Fundamentalism (I zotted one of those last night) - and other hate-mongering materials.

And yes, I had a great vacation! Thank you!

36 posted on 09/10/2007 9:55:18 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: wagglebee
I’m still interested in seeing a non-Catholic caucus that was immediately swarmed by Catholics.

Why do you suppose it is that we rarely do caucuses?

37 posted on 09/10/2007 9:55:31 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: Mad Dawg

I don’t know about you but when I read the caucus threads I learn alot. I love reading the responses and have learned from them too. I don’t often respond because most of the time I don’t have a lot to add.


38 posted on 09/10/2007 9:58:54 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Religion Moderator

That makes sense to a point. However, if a Catholic apologetic is writing something about religious bigotry and happens to mention the name, it would seem a little extreme to pull it.

Then again, you’re the one who makes the decisions.


39 posted on 09/10/2007 10:01:03 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DungeonMaster

Then take the second part of my post.


40 posted on 09/10/2007 10:02:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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