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(Catholic) Parish cancels talk by father and lesbian daughter
NCROnline ^ | November 2, 2007 | KRIS BERGGREN

Posted on 11/09/2007 6:40:59 AM PST by NYer

At the urging of an archdiocesan official, the pastor of a Minneapolis Catholic parish canceled a scheduled talk by a Catholic man and his daughter about how the family coped with the daughter’s coming out as a lesbian.

Robert Curoe and his daughter, Carol Curoe, were to speak Oct. 22 at St. Frances Cabrini Church, Minneapolis, about their recently published book, Are There Closets in Heaven? A Catholic Father and Lesbian Daughter Share Their Story. The book details the story of Carol’s coming out and her conservative, rural Iowa parents’ journey from denial to acceptance and support of their daughter.

But Oct. 18, Dennis McGrath, communications director for the archdiocese, contacted Fr. Leo Tibesar, pastor of St. Frances Cabrini, to tell the priest that “news of this would likely not be acceptable to the bishops.”

Archbishop Harry Flynn, his coadjutor John Nienstadt and Auxiliary Bishop Richard Pates were away from archdiocesan offices the week before the scheduled event, but McGrath told NCR, he “had to investigate” it after receiving “a fair number” of e-mail messages and phone calls about it.

The talk was sponsored by the Catholic Pastoral Committee on Sexual Minorities and Catholic Rainbow Parents, two Minneapolis nonprofit organizations not affiliated with the archdiocese.

McGrath said he told Tibesar, “I do not speak for the archbishops and do not want to represent their authority, but this talk does not seem to be in keeping with archdiocesan rules and policies or Vatican rules and policies.”

Hosting the event on church property, he said, would imply the church’s approval of Carol Curoe’s relationship with her partner of 20 years, with whom she is raising two sons.

When Flynn returned to the office, he affirmed the communications director’s actions, McGrath said.

Michael Bayly, executive director of the Catholic Pastoral Committee on Sexual Minorities, expressed dismay at the archdiocese’s stance and blamed conservative watchdogs for the campaign to get the talk banned from church property. One California blog, “A Faithful Rebel,” called the book event “a very scandalous lecture” and urged readers to contact the archdiocese and the Vatican in protest.

The talk was held at Spirit of the Lakes United Church of Christ in Minneapolis with about 100 people attending. The Curoes said that they hope their book and speaking engagements will help educate and inspire other families dealing with similar issues.

Carol Curoe said she was “surprised and we’re disappointed,” by the change in venue. “I think it’s a result of some good lobbying efforts. I don’t know if the people making the decisions have read the book or talked to anyone who has heard our presentation. We do not in any way attack the Catholic church.”

The book is endorsed by retired Bishop Thomas Gumbleton and Loretto Sr. Jeannine Gramick, advocates for ministry to and inclusion of sexual minorities in Catholic life.

McGrath acknowledged he did not read the book or know the content of the Curoes’ talk before asking Tibesar to cancel the event. “It is probably a nice story that [Robert Curoe] was able to accept it. But by the same token, the subject matter itself was not appropriate for a church setting.”

Bayly said that his group’s hope is that presenting “stories of the heart” such as the Curoes’ will generate the “power to transform individuals and institutions.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: lesbian

1 posted on 11/09/2007 6:41:00 AM PST by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Another view of this from Gay.com


A book discussion at a Roman Catholic parish that was to be led by a lesbian Catholic and her father was canceled after objections from the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis.

Carol Curoe of Minneapolis and Robert Curoe of Bernard, Iowa, were to speak at St. Francis Cabrini Catholic Church about their book, "Are There Closets in Heaven? A Catholic Father and Lesbian Daughter Share Their Story."

But after conservative bloggers were critical and contacted the archdiocese, spokesman Dennis McGrath contacted St. Francis Cabrini and St. Joan of Arc, the church where Carol Curoe, her partner and their children worship.

The talk went on at a different location: Spirit of the Lakes United Church of Christ in Minneapolis.

McGrath said he advised St. Francis Cabrini that "it wasn't a good idea" and that Archbishop Harry Flynn would not approve of a lesbian who is "in an actual full sexual relationship" speaking at a church.

He added: "We welcome gays and lesbians in the church, and there are many, I'm sure, who go to many of our parishes. But they have to follow the rules ... they cannot be sexually active."

Michael Bayly, executive director of the Catholic Pastoral Committee on Sexual Minorities, an independent group seeking greater church acceptance for gays and lesbians, called the archdiocese's actions disappointing.

"This understanding of church as an exclusive country club with a set of rules that everyone's got to follow -- I don't think that's reflective of the type of community that Jesus was all about," he said.

2 posted on 11/09/2007 6:42:57 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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It is probably a nice story that [Robert Curoe] was able to accept it.

No, it's a horrible story of a father giving up on his daughter's immortal soul.

Sounds like the Archdiocese's media director needs to brush up on his catechism.

3 posted on 11/09/2007 6:45:28 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: NYer
"This understanding of church as an exclusive country club with a set of rules that everyone's got to follow -- I don't think that's reflective of the type of community that Jesus was all about," he said.

Many are called, few are chosen. Straight is the gate and narrow the way that leads to eternal life.

4 posted on 11/09/2007 6:48:45 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: NYer

Catholic Pastoral Committee on Sexual Minorities......GOOD GRIEF!!!


5 posted on 11/09/2007 6:50:23 AM PST by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: NYer

It’s one thing to love your daughter or gay son....it’s quite another to APPROVE of it.


6 posted on 11/09/2007 6:50:57 AM PST by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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Catholic Pastoral Committee on Sexual Minorities and Catholic Rainbow Parents, two Minneapolis nonprofit organizations not affiliated with the archdiocese.
7 posted on 11/09/2007 7:28:01 AM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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Still a GOOD GRIEF moment.


8 posted on 11/09/2007 7:34:16 AM PST by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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"The book is endorsed by retired Bishop Thomas Gumbleton and Loretto Sr. Jeannine Gramick..."

Nice love letter of an article in NCROnline, too. Didn't even mention that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith declared in 1999 that Gramick is no longer permitted be engaged in pastoral work with lesbian and gay persons, that she rejected the faith and morals of the Church, and that she was obliged to leave her religious order, the School Sisters of Notre Dame.

This is a shame, because the Catholic Church emphatically DOES accept people who struggle with a homosexual orientation, and invited them specifically to frequent reception of the Sacraments, including Confession (Reconciliation) and the most precious and Blessed Sacrament of Holy Communion. They are invited to taste heaven --- which gives us (any of us) the strength to live lives that are upright and wholesome and in harmony with the laws of God.

Which is what you will NOT hear from Jeannine Gramick or from this lesbianism-promoting father-daughter team. It is truly a shame.

9 posted on 11/09/2007 8:02:11 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Catholic Pastoral Committee on Sexual Minorities......GOOD GRIEF!!!

Note, it's an independent group. No doubt they're as "Catholic" as Catholics for Free Choice.
10 posted on 11/09/2007 10:58:17 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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The book is endorsed by retired Bishop Thomas Gumbleton and Loretto Sr. Jeannine Gramick,

ROFL!!! That's an "imprimatur" of sorts ... but not one I'd want for any book I might happen to write.

11 posted on 11/09/2007 11:20:21 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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So when is the Archdiocese going to deal with St. Joan of Arc Parish?


12 posted on 11/09/2007 1:16:28 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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The book is endorsed by retired Bishop Thomas Gumbleton and Loretto Sr. Jeannine Gramick,

AKA the heretic endorsement.

13 posted on 11/10/2007 7:00:55 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: ArrogantBustard

Heh, good one!


14 posted on 11/26/2007 4:24:47 PM PST by Hammer-of-Heretics (Hammer)
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To: Suzy Quzy

As Christ might say, “Hate the sin; love the sinner.”


15 posted on 11/26/2007 4:29:48 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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