My principal objection to ecumenism is the Marian dogma (well, one of them, anyway).
Blessed Virgin Mary, spiritual mother of all of us, even the doubters, thank you for giving me the graces to say a mid-day Rosary today.
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SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico, MARCH 18, 2008 (Zenit.org).- By declaring Mary the Spiritual Mother of All Humanity, Benedict XVI wouldn't be saying anything new about her, only clarifying her role in salvation, says Cardinal Luis Aponte Martínez.
The retired archbishop of San Juan is one of the five cardinal co-sponsors of the 2005 International Symposium on Marian Co-redemption, held in Fatima, that are asking Benedict XVI to declare a fifth Marian dogma.
The petition urges the Pope to proclaim Mary "the Spiritual Mother of All Humanity, the co-redemptrix with Jesus the redeemer, mediatrix of all graces with Jesus the one mediator, and advocate with Jesus Christ on behalf of the human race."
In this interview with ZENIT, Cardinal Aponte discusses his views in favor of the proposed dogma.
Q: Your Eminence, what has led you to take a leadership role in the present petition to Benedict XVI for this new Marian dogma?
Cardinal Aponte: Our Lady has always been a source of particular strength and the object of particular love for me. These roles of the Blessed Virgin as our spiritual mother have always been part of our Catholic tradition. For Latin American Catholics, it is all contained in her manifestation as Our Lady of Guadalupe who shows herself as a merciful mother, ready to intercede for us in our gravest needs, and to use her maternal intercession to bring us closer to Jesus.
I first spoke of the importance of this dogma to my brother cardinals in the presence of Pope John Paul II in Rome in 2002. There I related this Marian proclamation to the Church’s new evangelization. As the first great evangelization of Latin America was led by Our Lady of Guadalupe, so should the Mother of Christ be invoked to lead this new evangelization of the third millennium.
The solemn definition of her motherly roles as co-redemptrix, mediatrix, and advocate will simply release Our Lady all the more to perform these motherly functions of intercession for our age for the maximum effectiveness in leading a new evangelization.
There are new times for the world and the Church. Just imagine how much Our Lady can help us in the new evangelization and with other elements of difficulty and crisis in our present age if we solemnly acknowledge her in these God-given roles of intercession for humanity.
Q: How would you respond to the objection that the Church doesn’t need a new teaching on Mary at this time?
Cardinal Aponte: There is nothing new in this teaching. It is actually very ancient. It is important to keep in mind that this truth is already an official doctrine of the Church regarding Mary as taught at the Second Vatican Council -- "Lumen Gentium," Nos. 57, 58, 61, 62 -- and has been the consistent teaching of the papal magisterium for centuries.
John Paul II called Mary the “co-redemptrix” six times during his pontificate. The role is always understood in complete dependency to Jesus and as a human participant with the redeemer in the work of salvation.
When Blessed Pope Pius IX proclaimed the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception as a dogma in 1854, he explained that a dogmatic statement would add greater light and appreciation of the doctrine, leading to its “perfection.” That’s what this definition would do for Our Lady’s spiritual motherhood -- add nothing new, but provide greater appreciation, understanding, and clarity of the existing truth.
Q: Do you think that these functions of co-redemptrix, mediatrix, and advocate within her general role as our spiritual mother may be too difficult for the common person to comprehend?
Cardinal Aponte: On the contrary, I think, for example, that the faithful in Latin America both comprehend this Marian doctrine in their hearts and already experience these maternal roles of Mary in their lives. Once again, Our Lady of Guadalupe embodies these motherly roles in a dynamic way, as a mother who suffered with Jesus for us, a mother who comes to nourish us with the graces of Jesus, and a mother who intercedes for us in our needs. That’s co-redemptrix, mediatrix, advocate.
John Paul II, in his brilliance, always spoke of Our Lady’s mediation in terms of her motherhood, using the expression “maternal mediation.” What is more common and understandable than a mother who suffers, nourishes, and pleads for her people? That’s what Our Lady does for us as a spiritual mother. It is really quite simple and already part of the daily experience of the Catholic faithful. What may be challenging to some of the learned has already been revealed to the little ones and accepted within the Church.
Q: The principal objection to this new Marian dogma seems to be ecumenism. Would this papal definition hurt the Church’s critically important mission of ecumenism in your view?
Cardinal Aponte: Mothers by their very natures and vocations are unifiers of families. So, too, with the Mother of Jesus within the family of Jesus. The Church’s mission of ecumenism is extremely important, but by leaving the Mother out, we only impede our own progress toward eventual Christian unity in the one body of Christ.
John Paul II made it clear in his encyclical on ecumenism, "Ut Unum Sint," that authentic Catholic ecumenical activity could never include either compromise of Catholic doctrine or impede proper doctrinal development, and this includes the doctrine regarding Mary.
A solemn definition regarding Our Lady’s spiritual maternity would actually be a giant step forward in ecumenism, as it would clearly distinguish what the Church definitively teaches -- that Mary is not a goddess, that Catholics don’t place Mary on a level of equality with Jesus her divine son, and that Mary as a human participated in the historic act of redemption in a way absolutely and completely dependent on Jesus. This would clear up a myriad of misunderstandings amidst our non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters, leading to greater dialogue and unity regarding Jesus’ mother and within his body. This is true ecumenism from a Catholic perspective.
At the time preceding the definition of the Assumption in 1950, the same objections regarding ecumenism were raised to Pius XII. After the definition, the Church experienced its greatest progress to date in ecumenism leading up to the second Vatican council.
Mary is the Mother of the ecumenical movement, the Mother of unity, not is obstacle. Let us give her the opportunity to unite us in ways only a mother can by openly and proudly declaring her maternal roles of intercession for us. Just think of how powerfully she could help us in the mission of Christian unity if we solemnly invite her to intercede for this goal.
Ping!
Mother of God and Mother of all mankind.
"First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time."
Ping.
Am busy enough with course administrivia I’m going to hold my fingers on this outrage, for now.
That is a major stumbling block for most folk.
But the maternity of Mary is a common-sense thing. And is scriptural:
1 John 3:1 See what love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
Rom 8:17 and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.
But, of course, there are counter-arguments. Unfortunately, those counter-arguments can lead one down the path of the Nestorian heresy.
But this is Free Republic; therefore, popcorn is at the ready...
My principal objection to ecumenism is the Marian dogma (well, one of them, anyway).
Blessed Virgin Mary, spiritual mother of all of us, even the doubters, thank you for giving me the graces to say a mid-day Rosary today.
Not at all.
FR is a cherished part of my life.
If I may make a suggestion, approach the issue prayerfully and with the sword of the spirit (the Word of God)...if your intent is to correct folks and not simply blast them.
As St. Paul said, Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all [men].
Miracles can happen. Take for example, this recent thread, where Calvinists and Catholics actually got along. If that's not evidence of a miracle-working God, I don't know what is { ;-) }
If you approach this stuff patiently, you might not get any converts, but you'll get people to listen.
I am not a Catholic, but appreciate this article...because at almost the very worst point in my life, a Catholic priest in a military hospital, helped me through that time, and I have to say, it was his reference to Mary, that helped me through...not Mary alone, but Mary as the mother of Jesus, and what she went through, with Christ’s suffering and death...and he pointed out, how I could better cope with my own suffering, and the suffering of my son, by looking at Mary and her example...
All the other chaplains and religious personnel at the military hospital, were also of comfort to me, but no one was as of much comfort to me, as this wonderful Catholic priest, who brought me a bit closer to Mary, or at least that is how I felt...and it was of immense comfort...
And many Protestants' activity of criticizing/bashing Catholic belief isn't?
Amen. It is beyond silly.
As I understand it the translation for "Mother of God" could just as accurately be translated "God bearer". If it were taught as the latter I wonder if this never ending movement to elevate her beyond whom she was would end.
Your Biblical sensitivities, etc. would not be assaulted if you had none :-) Rejoice when men revile you. Rest easy in the refuge of the Lord Jesus - the only mediator between man and God, who has no mother but is eternal; the great I AM.
In His grip of grace because no man can hold on of his own volition.
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