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To: Iscool
To become a Christian one must make a personal decision to become a disciple of Jesus Christ.

Have you ever actually attended a Catholic baptism? You make it sound like all that happens is that someone gets wet.

There's a bit more to it than that. Here's a taste:

Minister*: Do you reject sin, so as to live in the freedom of God's children?

[The ordinary minister of the sacrament of baptism is a deacon, priest, or bishop.]

Catechumen: I do.

M.: Do you reject the glamor of evil, and refuse to be mastered by sin?

C.: I do.

M.: Do you reject Satan, father of sin and prince of darkness?

C.: I do.

M.: Do you believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth?

C: I do.

M.: Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified, died, and was buried, rose from the dead, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father?

C.: I do.

M.: Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting?

C.: I do.

M.: God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ has given us a new birth by water and the Holy Spirit, and forgiven our sins. May God also keep us faithful to our Lord Jesus Christ for ever and ever.

Amen.

Sounds like a "personal decision" to be a disciple of Christ to me. If someone is going to stand up in front of people and publicly profess a lie, that's too bad, but it's not the church's fault. We're pretty clear on what's expected, and it's a whole lot more than just getting wet.

43 posted on 03/23/2008 6:05:59 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion

From the yahoo article: “ The Vatican statement announcing Allam’s conversion said: “For the Catholic Church, each person who asks to receive Baptism after a deep personal search, a fully free choice and adequate preparation, has a right to receive it.”

It said all newcomers to the faith were “equally important before God’s love and welcome in the community of the Church.”


51 posted on 03/23/2008 8:35:46 PM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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