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To: restornu; Tennessee Nana; Religion Moderator
Stay on topic none of what you think was said os in this video!

Resty, with all due respect, first this is an open thread. Second, the post was in regards to another aspect of the alledged apostasy, but a logical outgrowth of the topic in general.

16 posted on 01/20/2009 12:57:25 PM PST by Godzilla (Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?)
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To: Godzilla; restornu

Resty, the mormons cry for months that nobody wantsd to actually READ the book of mormon...

And then when we do...

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20 posted on 01/20/2009 1:06:04 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Godzilla; restornu

Apostasy, mormon style...

“In the year, 18323, being then thirty-one years old, Brigham Young) heard and embraced Mormonism. He was convinced by Elder Samuel H. Smith, brother to the Prophet, Joseph Smith, WHO HAS SINCE APOSTASIZED, and was baptized by Eleazar Miller, now at Salt Lake.” (Pp 136, 137)

“Accordingly, in 1835, on the 14th of February, at Kirtliand, Ohio, Brigham Young, then thirty-four years of age, was ordained one of the newly-organized quorum of the Twelve Apostles; he having been previously designated by a special revelation, that Smith pretended to obtain. Under the hands of the three witnesses of the Book of Mormon, ALL OF WHOM HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY APOSTASIZED, Brigham was ordained and set apart to his office.” (P 137)

“A new revelation was obtained, and Brigham was commanded to makle his home in this State of Missouri. Thomas B. Marsh, THE PRESIDENT OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES, HAD APOSTASIZED, finding Mormonism too bad a faith, or Smith too bad a Prophet.” (P 138)

“Orson Hyde, the present “PRESIDENT OF THE TWELVE,” HAD APOSTASIZED.” (P 139)

“W. W. Phelps, the present Mormon devil, almanac maker, “Brigham’s jester,” etc., had made affidavits against the Church. The Pratts were wavering; Dr. Arvard, a prominent member of the Danite band, had exposed the hidden machinery of Mormonism.” (P 139)(Can you say “APOSTASY” ???)

“Although it is, and always has been, Mormon policy that there should be but one head, and he the all in all of the Church; yet, in April, 1843, Brigham was possessed of influence sufficient to even grapple with Smith, as to the trustworthiness of the Twelve. Smith, who had trained Brigham, had to yield to the pupil he had educated.” (P 140) (Shades of APOSTASY)

“Brigham came hurriedly to Nauvoo-and now came the tug of war-convinced of his right to lead the people. O how easy it is to be convinced of what is to one’s interest! Hie called his quorum and the people together; ran Sidney Rigdon into the earth completely; broke up his organizations; denounced his revelations as from the devil; crushed his influence; cut off himself and adherents; cursed him; “handed him over to the buffetings of Satan for a thousand years,” and was chosen President by an overwhelming majority. Hie did not stay to reason with the minority, but cut them all off at once. The Church was going to ruin; a thousand divisions threatened to tear it piecemeal. Four claimants to Smith’s position appeared, and each had his followers among the people.” (P 141) (APOSTASY CITY)

(John Hyde, Mormonism: its leaders and designs, 1857, Pp 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141)


23 posted on 01/20/2009 1:20:26 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Godzilla
Resty, with all due respect, first this is an open thread.

We've told her over and OVER how to post a thread that can't be commented on except with a POSITIVE spin for The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints but somehow she keeps getting it BACKWARD!

What can we do NOW???

--MormonDude(Drat! MORE truth that we want to ignore will now be posted again. I think Resty must have converted or sumpthin' secretly...)

47 posted on 01/20/2009 2:45:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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