Posted on 03/11/2009 1:11:11 AM PDT by Cronos
Swiss prostitute Griselidis Real will keep the company of theologist Jean Calvin and writer Jose Luis Borges in the afterlife
Former Swiss prostitute and human rights activist Griselidis Real was buried next to theologist and religious reformist Jean Calvin at the famous royal cemetery in Geneva, media report on Tuesday.
Griselidis Real died in 2005 and seeing how she gave up on her career of a prostitute, she became famous by establishing a charity institution in the 70s with which she helped male and female prostitutes.
- Writer, painter and prostitute – is her epitaph and the decision on moving her remains next to the founder of the Calvinist Protestant Church did not go by without criticism.
An official explained that the decision to move her grave was a sign of gratitude to Griselidis Real for her charity work and not an accolade for her former profession.
Prostitute and a minister
Opponents of this move have a problem with the founder of the Protestant Calvinist Church resting next to a former prostitute.
Real was born in 1929 in Lausanna, had four children and stopped being a prostitute when she turned 66. She wrote several books on her profession.
Some 200 persons attended the transfer of her remains, while Real also rests in the company of other prominent figures, because Argentinean writer Jose Luis Borges was also buried there, along with childrens` psychologist Jean Piaget and UN Ambassador for Iraq Sergio Viera de Mello, who was assassinated in 2003.
Just like the thief on the cross next to Jesus Christ?
BTW, did she have someone (Servitus) murdered like Calvin did? Calvin was a tyrant and had someone else accuse Servitus of heresy since at that time the accuser was also imprisoned until the trial was over.
“Here lies Rosamund “a rose of the world”
Not a clean rose.
She no longer smells rosy.
So hold your nose.”
Inscription on the reburial of Rosamund, mistress of Henry II of England; buried in a Church, after Henry’s death they had her dug up and buried outside the Church. Apparently it wasn’t a pleasant job. ;)
For I tell you this, easier it is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the gates of Heaven.
Indeed the “Protestant Ethic” is theological garbage. Reading the Book of Job should have put that particularly odious argument to rest.
Yes, just like the other leap you posted.
what part of Jean Cauvin isn’t buried there?
You seemed to be making a very general statement about colonies based on their religious background, and the heavenly rewarded prosperity given to those with a Protestant. Even government-dependent military outposts should know self-sufficiency, exactly because opponents will naturally try to interrupt those supply lines. The actions of one bad military commander hardly seem relevant.
If you don’t know there is no point in discussing it with protoplasm.
>> what part of Jean Cauvin isn’t buried there? <<
The soul. The article states that Calvin will be residing through eternity with a prostitute. Earthdweller figures they went different directions after death. We can never know the state of anyone’s soul, but I think the Prostitute doesn’t have a great CV for going up. (I suspect that even her “charity” was a retirement plan for prostitutes funded by their Johns and pimps.)
I think what’s funny is the way some Calvinists like to rub the Catholic Church’s nose in the Galileo case. The Catholics housed Galileo in the very lap of luxury. Rome had simply warned Galileo not to base unwarranted theological conclusions on (as yet) unproven scientific assertions. Anyone who deems the Catholic church hostile to science at the time should read what the Cardinal in charge, Robert Bellarmine, wrote to Galileo. (Bellarmine went onto become recognized as “doctor of the church,” a status given only to 33 saints for their foundational works of theology.)
Contrast this to Calvin, who issued a religious fatwah calling for the execution of Galileo.
I do find your name, Earthdweller, highly ironic, given the nature and disposition of your comments.
I don't presume any such thing. I didn't know either the prostitute or Calvin to make even the lamest of assumptions.
oh, ok, gotcha — his spirit. I was thinking something mundane like his heart or head was buried somewhere else!!! :)
Please excuse the error.
LOL. Exactly, “Calvin” ain’t there.
I do; I’ll leave Cronos the opportunity to respond on his own, since he’s the one who matters. I think you’re overreaching to guess that Cronos doesn’t believe in a soul. It’s an issue of framing; it’s easy to infer that the scope of the conversation is limited to things which might be buried.
I’m not sure if you know this, but Catholics tend not to leave their great leaders in one piece where they were originally buried. So saying that the most important “part” of Calvin isn’t there (one could pick on you for calling a soul a “part” *tweak*) is a good way to get Catholics (and Orthodox? I’m not sure if they do this sorta stuff or not) to say, “REALLY??? They re-interred CALVIN???”
My my...you do inject much and presume mountains.
I'm just here to remind everyone that Calvin ain't there...nothing more, nothing less.
Have a nice day.
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