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To: stfassisi; narses; IronJack; annalex; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

If I could say a word . . . This piece (and so many like them) floats on a sort of Star Wars fascination with the powers of the Dark Side.

Or maybe this is better way of saying it: why always this fascination for the prostitute, the skilled scrutiny that yields the finest prose when wishing her dead, and not much at all to say about the wife.

One of these days writers will realize that what’s Gramscian is talk about them, even if it comes in the form criticism.

Conservatives give the enemy press.


12 posted on 05/22/2009 11:31:54 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis

It is important to know history of ideas. Especially since in this case much of it was deliberately concealed, for example, when “marxist” was deliberately purged from the vocabulary.

Does it become feeding ground for scary conspiracy theories? You bet.


13 posted on 05/22/2009 11:39:41 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: cornelis

"This piece (and so many like them) floats on a sort of Star Wars fascination with the powers of the Dark Side."

Maybe more like a Dr. Evil and Mini Me fascination to be technical about it. While it is possible to exaggerate the influence of Cultural Marxism in either πάθος or Entgegenständlichung, probably not by very much. It has an affinity with the Fabian Socialism and Deweyite trends which were already present in American mass education. Most liberals in the media would be too stupid to be able to tell the difference. They think of it just as progressive. The marketing and repackaging of it as "postmodern" was interesting. It might be worth debating the presentation of Freudianism and Frankfurt School social theory by Deweyite methods in the American system since not much philosophy is taught in the classical sense.

16 posted on 05/22/2009 12:02:54 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: cornelis

I think cornelis’ point is that, even in so vocally condemning Gramsci et al, we are giving them visibility, which works in their favor. We need to have these conversations to be sure, but perhaps more circumspectly. And we need to battle these pernicious ideas without naming them or (paradoxically) promoting them.


27 posted on 05/22/2009 1:34:40 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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