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I reached Jim Wallis, the progressive evangelical leader whose new book is called Rediscovering Values, as he was leaving for Davos. Wallis has been close to the president, advising him early on about whether to run and exchanging e-mails with him amid the Jeremiah Wright turmoil.

"We need a leader," Wallis told me, "to call not for incremental change but transformational politics. The president could do that. I think he still has it in him, but the American people don't perceive it."

1 posted on 01/31/2010 5:04:18 PM PST by Steelfish
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Jim Wallis is a Progressive — but he’s not an Evangelical, not in my book. Neither is Tony Campolo — and Rick Warren is working on being excluded for the ranks of Evangelicalism as well.

There are SOME applications of values Evangelicals hold that are simply non-negotiable. Wallis’ understanding of economics is more akin to Marxism than it is of the teachings of Jesus. His teachings on “peace” are more akin to the Eastern religious precept of Ahimsha (not-harming/pacifism) than they are to the principles and actions taught by Jesus.

No sale Mr. Wallis. I’m not buying.


2 posted on 01/31/2010 5:09:44 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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“. . . the American people don’t perceive it.”

No we don’t. It’s not that we’re dumb or incapable of great vision, either, Jim.

Laws will never replace self-sacrifice as the true source of community organization, much less self-interest as the true source of wealth creation. The more you try to force us into your utopian vision, the more we will exercise our unalienable rights.


3 posted on 01/31/2010 5:11:11 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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Electing politicians who will use federal laws and agents to force people into becoming their “brother’s keeper”. Yeah, that’s the ticket, right preach?


4 posted on 01/31/2010 5:16:52 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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Christ didn't work via the political structure: If God wanted to coerce people into specific choices or actions he would have. He didn't. We have free will, and as Americans we have until now been free to make our own choices and choose our own paths in life. Being charitable and compassionate comes as a personal choice from heart of the individual. These are not issues to be decided by government.

Learn a lesson Mr. Wallis. I don't need a ‘leader’, especially not a politician. Most of these people can't lead themselves let alone others. Obama has flat out lied publicly on multiple occasions. I don't judge or condemn him as a person for his failings. I have so many of my own. However, I certainly do not see him as qualified to ‘lead’ us spiritually to a transformation of society. If you believe this you need to take some serious time off to think a bit more about what you are saying.

6 posted on 01/31/2010 5:20:17 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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Which of the 7 churches does he see himself as being a part of? Tolerance?


7 posted on 01/31/2010 5:20:51 PM PST by sugarbabe
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The Obamessiah has already brought transformational change: he’s making all of us poor. Perhaps Wallis believes this is what Jesus wanted, for everybody to live in poverty, and for government to be the transformative vehicle to make this happen.


8 posted on 01/31/2010 5:21:46 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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Jim Wallis and his massive community of 100+ at Sojourners should have as much influence on American domestic policy as ... oh, I don't know, let's say Jose Canseco or Soupy Sales.

If he has a seat at the table it's because he's as leftist as Bronco Bomber is, not because he has a fresh viewpoint.

9 posted on 01/31/2010 5:22:14 PM PST by tx_eggman (Obama has "Czars" because men with more integrity than he has still use the titles "Don" and "Capo")
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These guys don’t get it, especially JIm Wallis and Frank Schaeffer. Neither does the nihilistic Newsweek reporter/columnist Lisa Miller.

These “progressive evangelicals” are leftists, not moderates.

The proper focus of the Church is God’s kingdom, not obama’s stated campaign goal of “perfecting the world”.

obama is a muslim, not a Christian. his REAL goal has not been to “perfect the world”, but to tear down America!! He is a false god and a false messiah.

Christians have a true Lord God and Savior, Jesus Christ (”Christ” means “Messiah”). All who have followed the false god obama should repent and return to Christ!!!!


10 posted on 01/31/2010 5:23:59 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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What is Jim Wallis doing at Davos anyway? Has he become a New World Order plant?


11 posted on 01/31/2010 5:26:41 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Jim went to seminary or college because of the draft and the Vietnam war. He takes one virtue and blows it up to gigantic proportions and diminishes all the rest.

“Whatever you do...”

I have no problem with Jim doing this with his money, but he wants to do it with my money by affecting government policy to use its power to extract that money from me. Cheapest thing in the world to be charitable with someone elses money.


13 posted on 01/31/2010 5:43:08 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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The Social Gospel. Heavy on social(ism) and light on the Gospel.


14 posted on 01/31/2010 5:49:51 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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