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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: Hank Kerchief

So how much did the Muzzies pay you to post this?

Christianity and theocracy are mutually incompatible, and this has been the experience since the dawn of Christianity. Calvin tried to establish a theocracy in Geneva - and it failed. The Puritans tried to establish one here - and it failed.

A theocracy is where the religious law and the civil law are the same, and the state is governed by the clergy. The only group that does this is Islam (Mormonism would have done it, but the US Army knocked that out of them).

State churches are churches that the state approves for its official functions and as the official recorder of civil acts (marriages and burials, primarily), and are not a good thing. But at least the Catholic Church never appointed a secular ruler as leader of the church, as the Anglicans did with Henry VIII. Being a state church undermines the church and is one of the reasons the Lutherans were never able to fight back against Hitler very effectively.

But it still acknowledges the fact that the Church and the State are two separate entities. Mosque and State are one and the same.


21 posted on 08/27/2010 12:22:07 PM PDT by livius
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To: Hank Kerchief
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

This Catholic would love to set Reginald straight on this issue.

Though I think Mr. Firehammer is full of prune juice, I can foresee something akin to the Holy Roman Empire stirring back to life if (and only if) the secular world remains supine in the face of aggressive Islamic expansion.

And of course, the western world would probably fear the Catholics more than the Caliphate on their doorstep. Perhaps they *should* be fearful. After all, we do have the Holy Hand Grenade.

;-)

22 posted on 08/27/2010 12:26:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
That's a slander of a good faithful group.

A "good, faithful group" would never put that kind of garbage up in the first place.

They're sorry because they were caught.

Despite your protestations, you cannot legitimately claim that these individuals have any authority to speak for the Church. They simply do not.

Moreover, I find it fascinating that this "good, faithful group" does not provide the names and qualifications of any actual people on their site.

23 posted on 08/27/2010 12:31:24 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Hank Kerchief

Hi again, Hank. How are things in atheist-ville? I hope you’re well and doing fine. :)


24 posted on 08/27/2010 12:31:33 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: wideawake
You also link to a site calling itself "RealCatholicTV." This site is not affiliated with the Catholic Church in any way, and the presenters openly reject the teachings of the Second Vatican Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. In other words, you are using three non-Catholic sources to slander the Catholic Church.

Bingo! Anyone can call themselves "Catholic" but that doesn't mean they follow the tenets of the Church. Take, for example, Pelosi, Kennedys, Kerry, etc.

25 posted on 08/27/2010 12:37:22 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Charles Martel
After all, we do have the Holy Hand Grenade.

Dude! Loose lips sink ships! Now everybody will know!

26 posted on 08/27/2010 12:39:48 PM PDT by choirboy
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To: IrishCatholic

A big steamy pile of poop at that.


27 posted on 08/27/2010 12:40:10 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian
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To: Hank Kerchief

Awwww....are they all out of Troll food where you come from?

I don’t have any either. Try a nice mosque.

*Don’t bet on the ham though.


28 posted on 08/27/2010 12:40:37 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: PGR88

“Does Reginald Firehammer actually know anything about “The Holy Roman Empire” or does he use it because its a wonderful coincidence that 3 left-wing buzz-word cliches can be strung together into a phrase that actually exists in the English Language?”

He uses it because it is the phrase used throughout the Catholic Encyclopedia, such as:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03048a.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12495a.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05730b.htm

...and hundreds of more times.

If you think it is a bad phrase, perhaps you should let them know.

Hank


29 posted on 08/27/2010 12:43:02 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: lastchance

I still can’t understand how some ignore the deadly power of albino monk assassins.

Freegards


30 posted on 08/27/2010 12:43:23 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: livius

“So how much did the Muzzies pay you to post this?”

All the quotes are from Catholic sites, and all the links are to Catholic sites. If you have a problem with the content, perhaps you should address the above question to them.

Hank


31 posted on 08/27/2010 12:45:53 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it.

Sure it does.

Try "homosexuality is fundamentally disordered" or "marriage is between one man and one woman" in a public setting or try saying a prayer out loud in a public school and you'll see how far your wet dream is from reality in this country.

We live under a secular humanist dictatorship which actively persecutes Christian morality and will do so increasingly as time passes. There are certain things which most definitely can not be said in public in the US in 2010.

Instead of fretting about the Holy Roman Empire which has about as much chance of returning as Babe Ruth has of suiting up for the Red Sox, you might want to give a thought to the coming marginalization and persecution of Christians in this country. That's the real issue.

This is a total non issue and a straw man.

32 posted on 08/27/2010 12:50:05 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

“And they rescinded the video in question in this blog post and apologized for its erroneous content.”

It would be very helpful if you could provide a link to the actual apology. Your link only goes to the site.

Thanks for the comment.

Hank


33 posted on 08/27/2010 12:50:17 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

The church also mentions eunuchs.

*Cue scary music as all male non-Catholic freepers cover their...


34 posted on 08/27/2010 12:50:25 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: wideawake

“you are using three non-Catholic sources”

Err... do you mean they are not Catholics? They seem to think they are Catholics. Other Catholics seem to think so to. Why would they have those sites if they are not Catholics. I think I’ll take their own word for what they over what you say they are.

Hank


35 posted on 08/27/2010 12:53:32 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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DNFTT


36 posted on 08/27/2010 12:56:47 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Hank Kerchief

To the author of the Declaration of Independence, meanwhile, Catholics represented a profound threat to the fledgling American republic.

“History furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government,” Thomas Jefferson wrote. “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty.”


37 posted on 08/27/2010 12:58:32 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Communities regularly fight the construction projects, Walmarts Starbucks and even tree removal.)
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To: Remole

“If you or anyone else wants to know if the head of the Vatican City State has the agenda of restoring the Holy Roman... READ what the current Pope has said.”

I’m quite sure there are no such intentions, but I’m also quite sure if there were, the Pope would not be writing them down for the world to read.

Hank


38 posted on 08/27/2010 1:03:40 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief
He uses it because it is the phrase used throughout the Catholic Encyclopedia, such as: ...and hundreds of more times. If you think it is a bad phrase, perhaps you should let them know.

What???? - the "Holy Roman Empire" did exist, but how exactly does the fact that it is cited in a Catholic Encyclopedia mean the Pope is on a mission to create a Catholic Dictatorship????

39 posted on 08/27/2010 1:04:11 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Hank Kerchief
They seem to think they are Catholics.

If you do not accept the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, if you do not accept the teaching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and if you do not acknowledge the Pope's teaching authority - well, you can call yourself whatever you want, but you're still not a Catholic.

That's not how it works.

I think I’ll take their own word for what they over what you say they are.

Brilliant statement.

Hank Kerchief, I am the Emperor of North America and I am royally assessing you a fine of $10,000.

If anyone says that I am not the Emperor of North America and that you do not owe me any money, remember: you have to take my word for what I say I am over anyone who would contradict me.

40 posted on 08/27/2010 1:05:56 PM PDT by wideawake
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