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The Mosque Is In Trouble, Very Big Trouble (Nancy Pelosi wants investigation of funding?)
The New Republic ^ | September 2, 2010 | Martin Peretz

Posted on 09/02/2010 2:26:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Nancy Pelosi who always has her ear to the ground for a simple-minded explanation of an intricate matter has demanded to know whose money is behind the campaign against the Ground Zero mosque. Maybe she can't imagine anything other than a grand conspiracy: maybe Glenn Beck or David Koch, maybe Sarah Palin or some other ditzy lady with access to right-wing money.

In my view, the really modest struggle against the mosque is probably the closest thing we've had to a genuinely grass roots effort against the casual and elitist First Amendment fundamentalists. "No" to admitting in schools that Christmas has something to do with Christianity. But "yes" to public financing of what looks to me like a sleazy venture combining religion, marriage catering, sports activity, political propaganda and what would pretend to be kultcha.

In any case, there are zero interest loans in the offing...Perhaps to facilitate Muslim investment.

If the project ever gets off to a start which it looks like it just might not.

There is no real Muslim demand for this project because there are two mosques in the neighborhood already and enough mosques in the city to serve all who pray to Allah, plus more. It is assumed (though I make no such assertion) that Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud would help foot the bill. "Knowledgeable" folk say it's true. But maybe that's only because he is the nineteenth richest person in the world. In any case, that's what Forbes says.

Foreign Arab interest in this enterprise is actually not very deep.

In fact, a popular Arab language web site, Elaph reported that 58.5 percent of its 11,235 respondents felt that the Muslim world had no need for this mosque. Apparently, many explicitly objected to it. This is less than the proportions of Americans who object...but not by much.

The fact is that Sharif El-Gamal, the real estate hustler who is behind the project, has had his troubles in the business. He was an outrageous landlord in apartment buildings that he owned in New Jersey, and was taken to court endlessly by tenants. Of course, he is a pious man. So his tenants must have just been nudniks, which doesn't necessarily mean that they are Jewish.

He has been eluding the municipal tax authorities over some $200,000 in previous obligations. Why is the city in such a rush to help him? He recently announced to great fanfare that he had actually collected $10,000 for his mosque.

And then there is the theological desperado, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, whose intellectual history is so flexible that no one (except, of course, Mayor Bloomberg) can tell what kind of Muslim he is. And, yes, there are different kinds of Muslims as there are different kinds of Christian Fundamentalists.

Back to Elaph, a phenomenon in Arab-Muslim society in its independence, honesty, unpredictability. Take a look at an essay it published on-line in May on the "Cordoba Initiative."

An excerpt from the essay translated into English by the web site Answering Islam:

The project by Muslims to build a mosque in the United States, close to the place where the 9/11 attack took place, is causing quite a stir. It is worth noting that the name chosen for the mosque is confrontational and provocative. The first Cordoba mosque was built in that Spanish city in the aftermath of the Muslim conquest of Christian Spain. This Islamic “Conquista” was followed by the killings of men, and the enslavement of women, many of whom were carried away to the Arab lands to work as servants and concubines for their Muslim masters. For both Arabs and Muslims, the history of their conquests remains as a symbol of their past glory, and power. They have no thoughts of remorse or shame, when they recall those heinous crimes that accompanied the colonization of Spain!

Nowadays, some Muslims in America dream of repeating that ugly history of Islamic imperialism. In fact, I submit that the very choice of “Cordoba” as the name for the projected mosque was not an innocent one. On the contrary, it indicated a longing for the resumption of Islamic futuhat (conquests) throughout the world.

Actually, New York City has already several Sunni and Shi’ite mosques. It is a known fact that the Irhabi ideology has infiltrated many of the Sunni centers; while some Shi’ite mosques have allowed Iranian Intelligence services to operate freely within them.

The State of New York has no need for more mosques, since there are plenty of them. Furthermore, Muslims living in New York do not frequent their mosques on a daily basis; usually they go to them either on Saturdays or on Sundays, due to the nature of their work. Therefore, there is no real need for the building of the Cordoba Mosque; especially as the project has already provoked the sentiments of Americans, by reminding them of the attacks on 11 September, 2001, the Islamic conquest of Spain, as well as the tragic consequences of Islamic imperialism in general


TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: davidkoch; glennbeck; groundzeromosque; iran; isala; islam; israel; martinperetz; mosque; nancypelosi; newyork; pelosi; sarahpalin; wot

1 posted on 09/02/2010 2:26:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
has demanded to know whose money is behind the campaign against the Ground Zero mosque

Headline is misleading. She wants to know who's AGAINST the Victory mosque. Big Brother is taking names again.

2 posted on 09/02/2010 2:30:17 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The America Hating Skank Pelosi needs investigated on her dealings in regards to treason.

But the sweet little compassionate “R”s will stay silent.


3 posted on 09/02/2010 2:37:21 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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4 posted on 09/02/2010 2:42:48 PM PDT by Liz
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QUOTING THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD: The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their own hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.

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The US govt, military and intel are filled with Muslim Brotherhood moles - this is why American troop deaths in Afghan keep rising......22 soldiers killed since Friday is not the wages of war---but calculated murder. So guess who is financing Sharia in America?

"Today, I am announcing that my peace-loving, faith-filled friends from the 'Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations associated with the Muslim Brotherhood,' will bring 25-30 Muslim leaders of 20 national Muslim groups August 31 to attend a special workshop presented by the White House and US Government agencies, including Agriculture, Education, Homeland Security, HHS, etc., to provide the groups tax funding, government assistance and resources.”

"The August 31 workshop will provide special access for the Muslim Brotherhood organizations. We pledge to provide direct access and cut through red tape. The US Government and the Muslim groups will hold an Iftar dinner breaking the fast of Ramadan after the workshop. " SOURCE bigpeace.com

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Spokesman for Islamic triumphalism on US soil----former Cong Vin Weber had this to say: : “The report----Changing Course: A New Direction for US Relations with the Muslim World----provides clear-headed ideas and analysis that the American public and bipartisan leaders can get behind in working to improve US-Muslim relations. The process by which this group reached consensus is a good model for dialogue for the tough issues the country faces.”

Okay---so let's all concentrate on Islam's religious beliefs----which guide their every move and thought.

The fundamentals of what Muslims believe are at the core of their thinking. The Koran---Islam's religious playbook----contains the directives that rules their lives and forms the basis of what they believe.

EVERY Muslim must abide by these directives.

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory. 9:12-14

The “Religion of Truth” (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions. 9:33

Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16

All Muslims are directed to look down on non-Muslims as infidels.

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RAISE YOUR HAND, AMERICANS Who among us believes the 9/11 hijackers acted on a "perverse and narrow interpretation" of their religion?

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The Ground Zero mosque is another version of "Muslim Triumphalism".....brought to you by another group of hyphenates bent on mischief. Latinos are itching for Reconquista. The mosquevites are looking to impose Sharia law on the US.

All of us are sick and tired of these foreign-born "hyphenates" sticking it to Americans. Americans know all the world wants to live like we do---even our poorest live handsomely compared to some of these backwater Third World hellholes. Now instead of blending into the US melting pot, the hyphenates want to radically change our culture---they want us to be like them.

That ain't gonna happen.

5 posted on 09/02/2010 2:44:27 PM PDT by Liz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

for later reading.


6 posted on 09/02/2010 2:47:42 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Liz

You have my vote.


7 posted on 09/02/2010 2:51:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m glad that normal Americans can still be outraged over something.


8 posted on 09/02/2010 2:55:58 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pelosi wants those with questions about the mosk investigated.
Bloomingidiot doesn't want anyone looking into funding for the mosk.

That sure smells like a huge cover up.

9 posted on 09/02/2010 3:35:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: bgill

Actually Pelosi came back the next day to try to straighten out her misspeak...and said that both sides need to be investigated for who is behind each side financially.


10 posted on 09/02/2010 6:36:29 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Wow, bad headline, but this was in The New Republic:
Nancy Pelosi who always has her ear to the ground for a simple-minded explanation of an intricate matter has demanded to know whose money is behind the campaign against the Ground Zero mosque. Maybe she can't imagine anything other than a grand conspiracy: maybe Glenn Beck or David Koch, maybe Sarah Palin or some other ditzy lady with access to right-wing money.
Martin Peretz "longtime supporter of Al Gore":
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11 posted on 09/11/2010 8:21:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Liz
FYI

45–47 Park Place, -- HISTORY
During the September 11 attacks, the then-five-story building at 45–47 Park Place,, between West Broadway and Church Street, was severely damaged. The building is located two blocks (less than 600 feet (180 meters)) north of the former World Trade Center.
That morning, the terrorists hijacked United Airlines Flight 175 as part of their attack on the World Trade Center Twin Towers. They crashed the plane into the South Tower at 9:03 a.m, triggering the destruction of the tower hours later.. The plane penetrated through the tower, and part of the plane's landing gear and fuselage came out the north side of the tower and crashed through the roof of 45–47 Park Place, and through two of its floors. The plane parts destroyed three floor beams, and severely compromised the building's internal structure.
At the time, the building was leased to the Burlington Coat Factory. Stephen Pomerantz owned the building, and his wife Kukiko Mitani, subsequently attempted to sell it for years, at one point asking for $18 million. Until its 2009 purchase, however, the building lay abandoned……..



12 posted on 09/11/2010 8:41:29 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (It's the 'Land of Opportunity'... NOT... the 'Land of Entitlements'!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv; Liz; 2ndDivisionVet; TigersEye; Cindy; UCANSEE2; Fred Nerks; Marine_Uncle; ...
Time for my banner on "Unholy Alliance"...if I could find it...

Anyway see this:


13 posted on 09/11/2010 8:45:27 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Horowitz needs to do a ‘Unholy Alliances for Dummies’ version.. it might find a wider appeal to the unscrubbed masses of Rolling Stone and Playboy and such..

altho he couldn’t have laid it out much clearer in his book.


14 posted on 09/11/2010 9:03:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have to ready for 2PM shift through 11PM. Then tomorrow go back in at 8AM through 5PM shift. So I shall not be using my computer much at all for the next few days...work work work.


15 posted on 09/11/2010 10:06:11 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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