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To: danieltl

Even the leading atheists admit in the debates with theists that it takes “faith” to believe that there is no God, because it can not be proven by science that one does not exist. (That is what faith is—to believe in something that can not be proven through scientific means).

Atheists “have faith” that “eventually” everything can be proven by science. BTW, it was the profound Catholics like Newton and Galileo, and Copernicus, St. Augustine, Mendel, and St. Thomas Aquinas, etc., etc., that have advanced science to a point where it may tell us more about the metaphysical world. In fact, the Christian paradigm is responsible even for Einstein. It was because we had faith in the Bible and belief that man was created in God’s image (with reason and logic) so that Christians created universities and hospitals and schools—an attempt to uncover God’s meaning for the universe.

Nietzsche recognized this belief in the Creator leading to imitators—creators on earth— like Milton, Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Beethoven, Michelangelo, Raphael, Bach, etc., and he recoiled at the idiots like Marx whose atheism was going to create an abyss, a void—where NEVER, in the history of man were men arrogant enough to say there is no need for a god. (They make themselves gods which is so idiotic since they are immortal and it is easily proven. If there is no god, then man has to take control over the masses—I prefer my God to man any day. Men always screw everything up when they are prideful and arrogant—only moral people aren’t.)

German Postmodernists were killing off the concept of God for Europe and this morality void was predicted by Nietzsche—he predicted Hitler’s Germany, Lenin’s Russia, Mao’s China, Pot’s Cambodia, etc. He is the most profound thinker of the 19th century because he saw the nihilism and the culture of death which the German philosophers were designing. (Pope refers to this obvious fact everyday with the deChristianization of Europe. They are in a state of nihilism and suicide—because when there is no God—there is no hope and no reason to have children. In fact, since we are all just animals and life sucks for most of us, we should never reproduce.) Nihilism—it was predicted in the 1880’s.

If there is no God, all we are are animals. There is no profound meaning to life and no reason to act moral (especially if in private). Founders knew that immoral people would act like Benedict Arnold in private. Why not if they could benefit and not get caught.

Atheist have also admitted that if there ceases to be the Christian paradigm in a country—as the Founders were adamant that for a free country, man has to be moral, so religion is a necessity. (To them it was Christianity—no other religions were universal, nor aligned with Natural Law Theory like Aquinas did to Christian Thought. They wanted a religion based in logic and reason, not some mystical, wicca non-sense. (All religions are NOT the same and they do not deliver the same results—what would our nation be like if Voodoo was the prevalent religion? Well, it wouldn’t have lasted 10 years before a greater power would have decimated it.

The idea that men are just animals is the Marxist (atheist) one. Nietzsche hated the ugly world Marx’s ideology would create. Everyone equal—no Newtons, no Wilberforces....ya, right. Only in an atheist paradigm where man would be at the whims of a master on earth. The survival of the fittest will be the morality that always HAS to be the one to rule animals.....What Hitler resorted to, Stalin, Hitler, Lenin, Mao, Pot....all have to resort to the Darwinian model, etc. What other one is there if they throw out the moral absolutes that has directed the US for 250 years—the only paradigm that has worked in the history of mankind for a free and prosperous nation that gives dignity to all. Atheists will give dignity to no one but themselves and those who are advantageous to themself. Very, sick, selfish world. The Nature of Man is selfish—Marx is flawed because he lies about the nature of man.

As of yet, there is no proof of no God. To not have faith would make you an agnostic—not an atheist, because atheism still takes faith.

I want my children to grow up within a Christian paradigm. No better society in the history of earth, and one which gives hope and meaning and dignity to everyone. No other belief system can be even close to delivering such a positive, fun, creative, productive, safe society.


251 posted on 01/01/2011 10:13:52 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

You’re quite right that many awesome scientists in the past and many leading scientists today are men and women of faith. I don’t think that your religious beliefs affect your abilities.

Also, it seems to me that a lot of your arguments focus on what you’d like to be true, and not what is true. It isn’t that there is no “need” for a God. In fact, it would be wonderful if there was. Unfortunately, in my view, there just isn’t. Quite frankly, we are animals. To think that we deserve to be otherwise is just human arrogance.

Evidence of no God? There’s also no evidence of no Allah. How do you reconcile that?


252 posted on 01/02/2011 5:21:07 AM PST by danieltl
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