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God as love- unceasing and unchanging Love,not wrath.St Isaac of Nineveh series
http://en.hilarion.orthodoxia.org/6_6_1 ^ | unknown | Metropolitan Hilarion Alfeyev

Posted on 04/11/2011 5:23:53 PM PDT by stfassisi

The idea of God as love is central and dominant in Isaac’s thought: it is the main source of his theological opinions, ascetical recommendations and mystical insights.

Divine love is beyond human understanding and above all description in words. At the same time it is reflected in God’s actions with respect to the created world and humankind: ‘Among all His actions there is none which is not entirely a matter of mercy, love and compassion: this constitutes the beginning and the end of His dealings with us’.[2] Both the creation of the world and God’s coming on earth in flesh had the only aim, ‘to reveal His boundless love to the world’.[3]

Divine love was the main reason for the creation of the universe and is the main driving force behind the whole of creation. In the creation of the world divine love revealed itself in all its fullness:

What that invisible Being is like, who is without any beginning in His nature, unique in Himself, who is by nature beyond the knowledge, intellect and feel of created beings, who is beyond time and space, being the Creator of these... Let us consider how rich in its wealth is the ocean of His creative act, and how many created things belong to God, and how in His compassion He carries everything, acting providentially as He guides creation, and how with a love that cannot be measured He arrived at the establishment of the world and the beginning of creation; and how compassionate God is, and how patient; and how He loves creation, and how He carries it, gently enduring its importunity, the various sins and wickednesses, the terrible blasphemies of demons and evil men.[4]

Divine love is a continuing realization of the creative potential of God, an endless revelation of the Divinity in His creative act. Divine love lies at the foundation of the universe, it governs the world, and it will lead the world to that glorious outcome when the latter will be entirely ‘consumed’ by the Godhead:

What profundity of richness, what mind and exalted wisdom is God’s! What compassionate kindness and abundant goodness belong to the Creator! With what purpose and with what love did He create this world and bring it into existence! What a mystery does the coming into being of the creation look towards! To what a state is our common nature invited! What love served to initiate the creation of the world!.. In love did He bring the world into existence; in love is He going to bring it to that wondrous transformed state, and in love will the world be swallowed up in the great mystery of Him who has performed all these things; in love will the whole course of the governance of creation be finally comprised.[5]

The will of God, which is full of love, is the primal source of all that exists within the universe.[6] God is not only the Creator of the universe and its driving force: He is first of all ‘the true Father’, ‘who in His great and immeasurable love surpasses all in paternal affection’.[7] Thus His attitude to the created world is characterized by an unceasing providential care for all its inhabitants: for angels and demons, human beings and animals. God’s providence is universal and embraces all.[8] None of His creatures is excluded from the scope of the loving providence of God, but the love of the Creator is bestowed equally upon all: ‘...There is not a single nature who is in the first place or last place in creation in the Creator’s knowledge.., similarly there is no before or after in His love towards them: no greater or lesser amount of love is to be found with Him at all. Rather, just like the continual equality of His knowledge, so too is the continual equality of His love’.[9]

All living creatures existed in God’s mind before their creation. And before they have been brought into being, they received their place in the hierarchical structure of the universe. This place is not taken away from anyone even if one falls away from God:

Everyone has a single place in His purpose in the ranking of love, corresponding to the form He beheld in them before He created them and all the rest of created beings, that is, at the time before the eternal purpose for the delineation of the world was put into effect... He has a single ranking of complete and impassible love towards everyone, and He has a single caring concern for those who have fallen, just as much as for those who have not fallen.[10]

The providential care of God and His love extends to angels, who were the first product of God’s creative act, including those who had fallen away from God and had turned into demons. According to Isaac, the love of the Creator towards fallen angels does not diminish as a result of their fall, and it is not less than the fullness of love which He has towards other angels.[11]

It would be most odious and utterly blasphemous, Isaac claims, to think that hate and resentment exists with God, even against demonic beings; or to imagine any other weakness, or passibility, or whatever else might be involved in the course of retribution of good or bad as applying, in a retributive way, to that glorious Nature. Rather, He acts towards us in ways He knows will be advantageous to us, whether by way of things that cause suffering, or by way of things that cause relief, whether they cause joy or grief, whether they are insignificant or glorious: all are directed towards the single eternal good...[12]

To say that the love of God diminishes or vanishes because of a created being’s fall means ‘to reduce the glorious Nature of the Creator to weakness and change’.[13] For we know that ‘there is no change or any earlier or later intentions, with the Creator: there is no hatred or resentment in His nature, no greater or lesser place in His love, no before or after in His knowledge’.[14] Nothing that happens in creation may affect the nature of the Creator, Who is ‘exalted, lofty and glorious, perfect and complete in His knowledge, and complete in His love’.[15]

This is why God loves equally the righteous and sinners, making no distinction between them. God knew man’s future sinful life before the latter’s creation, yet He created him.[16] God knew all people before their becoming righteous or sinners, and in His love He did not change because of the fact that they underwent change.[17] Even many blameworthy deeds are accepted by God with mercy, ‘and are forgiven their authors, without any blame, by the omniscient God to whom all things are revealed before they happen, and who was aware of the constraints of our nature before He created us. For God, who is good and compassionate, is not in the habit of judging the infirmities of human nature or actions brought about by necessity, even though they may be reprehensible’.[18]

Even when God chastises one, He does this out of love and for the sake of one’s salvation rather than for the sake of retribution. God respects human free will and does not want to do anything against it.[19] Thus the image of God as Judge is completely overshadowed in Isaac by the image of God as Love (hubba) and Mercy (rahme). According to him, mercifulness (mrahmanuta) is incompatible with justice (k’inuta):

Mercy is opposed to justice. Justice is equality of the even scale, for it gives to each as he deserves... Mercy, on the other hand, is a sorrow and pity stirred up by goodness, and it compassionately inclines a man in the direction of all; it does not requite a man who is deserving of evil, and to him who is deserving of good it gives a double portion. If, therefore, it is evident that mercy belongs to the portion of righteousness, then justice belongs to the portion of wickedness. As grass and fire cannot coexist in one place, so justice and mercy cannot abide in one soul. As a grain of sand cannot counterbalance a great quantity of gold, so in comparison God’s use of justice cannot counterbalance His mercy. As a handful of sand thrown into the great sea, so are the sins of the flesh in comparison with the mind of God. And just as a strongly flowing spring is not obscured by a handful of dust, so the mercy of the Creator is not stemmed by the vices of His creatures.[20]

Rejecting with such a decisiveness the idea of requital, Isaac shows that the Old Testament understanding of God as a chastiser of sinners, ‘visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation’,[21] does not correspond with the revelation that we have received through Christ in the New Testament. Though David in the Psalms called God ‘righteous and upright in His judgments’,[22] He is in fact good and merciful. Christ himself confirmed God’s ‘injustice’ in His parables, in particular in the Parables of the Workers in the Vineyard and of the Prodigal Son,[23] but even more so by His incarnation for the sake of sinners: ‘Where, then, is God’s justice, for while we are sinners Christ died for us?’[24]

Thus, Isaac claims, one should not interpret literally those Old Testament texts where the terms wrath, anger, hatred and others are used of the Creator. If such anthropomorphic terms occur in Scripture, they are used in a figurative sense, for God never does anything out of wrath, anger or hatred: everything of that sort is far removed from His Nature. We should not read everything literally as it is written, but rather see within the bodily exterior of the Old Testament narratives the hidden providence and eternal knowledge of God.[25] ‘Fear God out of love for Him, and not for the reputation of austerity that has been attributed to Him’.[26]

If God is love by His nature, everyone who has acquired perfect love and mercy towards all creation, becomes godlike: his perfect state of love towards creation is a mirror where he can see a true image and likeness of the Divine Essence.[27] All the saints ‘seek for themselves the sign of complete likeness to God: to be perfect in the love of the neighbour’.[28] Characteristic in this connection is Isaac’s famous text on the ‘merciful heart’, through which one can become like God:

And what is a merciful heart? - It is the heart’s burning for the sake of the entire creation, for men, for birds, for animals, for demons, and for every created thing; and by the recollection of them the eyes of a merciful man pour forth abundant tears. From the strong and vehement mercy which grips his heart and from his great compassion, his heart is humbled and he cannot bear to hear or to see any injury or slight sorrow in creation. For this reason he offers up tearful prayer continually even for irrational beasts, for the enemies of the truth, and for those who harm him, that they be protected and receive mercy. And in like manner he even prays for the family of reptiles because of the great compassion that burns without measure in his heart in the likeness of God.[29]

The ‘merciful heart’ in a person is, therefore, the image and likeness of God’s mercy, which embraces the whole of creation, people, animals, reptiles and demons. With God, there in no hatred towards anyone, but all-embracing love, which does not distinguish between righteous and sinner, between a friend of truth and an enemy of truth, between angel and demon. Every created being is precious in God’s eyes, He cares for every creature, and everyone finds in Him a loving Father. If we turn away from God, He does not turn away from us: ‘If we believe not, yet He abideth faithful, for He cannot deny Himself’.[30] Whatever may happen to humankind and to the whole of creation, however far it may be removed from God, He remains faithful to it in His love, which He cannot and will not deny.


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Divine love is a continuing realization of the creative potential of God, an endless revelation of the Divinity in His creative act. Divine love lies at the foundation of the universe, it governs the world, and it will lead the world to that glorious outcome when the latter will be entirely ‘consumed’ by the Godhead
1 posted on 04/11/2011 5:23:59 PM PDT by stfassisi
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Thus, Isaac claims, one should not interpret literally those Old Testament texts where the terms wrath, anger, hatred and others are used of the Creator. If such anthropomorphic terms occur in Scripture, they are used in a figurative sense, for God never does anything out of wrath, anger or hatred: everything of that sort is far removed from His Nature. We should not read everything literally as it is written, but rather see within the bodily exterior of the Old Testament narratives the hidden providence and eternal knowledge of God.[25] ‘Fear God out of love for Him, and not for the reputation of austerity that has been attributed to Him’
2 posted on 04/11/2011 5:27:30 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: kosta50; crazykatz; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; The_Reader_David; jb6; ...

Orthodox/Latin Lenten ping.

“Mercy is opposed to justice. Justice is equality of the even scale, for it gives to each as he deserves... Mercy, on the other hand, is a sorrow and pity stirred up by goodness, and it compassionately inclines a man in the direction of all; it does not requite a man who is deserving of evil, and to him who is deserving of good it gives a double portion. If, therefore, it is evident that mercy belongs to the portion of righteousness, then justice belongs to the portion of wickedness. As grass and fire cannot coexist in one place, so justice and mercy cannot abide in one soul. As a grain of sand cannot counterbalance a great quantity of gold, so in comparison God’s use of justice cannot counterbalance His mercy. As a handful of sand thrown into the great sea, so are the sins of the flesh in comparison with the mind of God. And just as a strongly flowing spring is not obscured by a handful of dust, so the mercy of the Creator is not stemmed by the vices of His creatures.”


3 posted on 04/11/2011 5:38:07 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: stfassisi

I have been thinking about this very thing all day long.

Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 04/11/2011 5:44:06 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: stfassisi

“Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed”—Psalm 85:10


5 posted on 04/11/2011 5:49:47 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: Kolokotronis
Mercy is opposed to justice

I don't think so. When God punishes the evil-doer, his motive is often mercy for the innocent who suffer under the evil.

Current-day political example: embarrasing Obama on a worldwide scale by exposing all the lying he's done would be a punishment for him, but it would be a mercy for those innocent who suffer because of his lies.

6 posted on 04/11/2011 6:10:07 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: stfassisi

Satan was the first liar. He told Adam and Eve that they “would NOT surely die” if they disobeyed God Almighty.

He’s still propogating the same lie in a million different ways to trap the unwary and the simple.

Our only hope of salvation is Jesus Christ and belief in his sacrifice on our behalf. Anyone who doesn’t have that is doomed to be cast into Hell. The one and only reason that time hasn’t ended before now is that God is giving every human being(of whom He has foreknowledge) the chance to hear and heed the Gospel of Jesus Christ. When that is done, God’s WRATH will indeed come for those who have held His Son of no account.


7 posted on 04/11/2011 6:19:41 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: stfassisi
Thanks for the post and ping.
"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love."
1 John 4:7-8

8 posted on 04/11/2011 6:44:04 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

“”God’s WRATH will indeed come “”

It’s not wrath in the way you think,dear friend.

God is not moved (”I the Lord do not change.”Malachi 3:6) and is unchanging Love,it’s God’s love that chastises and scourges or it would be man that has the power to move God,thus ,making man control God. God’s love does not change from Love to wrath

This is what the early Christians understood

From St. Isaac of Syria

... those who find themselves in hell will be chastised by the scourge of love. How cruel and bitter this torment of love will be! For those who understand that they have sinned against love, undergo no greater suffering than those produced by the most fearful tortures. The sorrow which takes hold of the heart, which has sinned against love, is more piercing than any other pain. It is not right to say that the sinners in hell are deprived of the love of God ... But love acts in two ways, as suffering of the reproved, and as joy in the blessed! (St. Isaac of Syria, Mystic Treatises)


9 posted on 04/11/2011 6:44:56 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

10 posted on 04/11/2011 7:18:34 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: stfassisi

Luke 17:27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

Better listen, friend. The wages of sin is Death.


11 posted on 04/11/2011 7:19:05 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Kolokotronis
Mercy is opposed to justice

When you think about it, all of Christianity is based on Mercy, not Justice. The very death on the cross is an act of Supreme Mercy as it is of Supreme Injustice. No one can say that it was just for Jesus to die!

The last person on earth who deserved to die (the most innocent of all) is killed, so that the guilty may live. (That's pretty much Lukan theology)

And then comes Anselm...

12 posted on 04/11/2011 9:35:55 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: stfassisi

Interesting, I did not know about this Saint until you posted it. It seems that he was born in Qatar or Bahrain


13 posted on 04/12/2011 1:43:54 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: stfassisi
http://www.isaacthesyrian.com/quotes.html
14 posted on 04/12/2011 1:54:03 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: kosta50
Καλή Σαρακοστή, Κοστα μου! ("Good Lent" for those of you who, sadly, are not versed in the Mother Tongue of The Faith. The rest you should know by now!)
15 posted on 04/12/2011 4:26:07 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

Thanks! I bookmarked this for later reading.

I went to my first Akathist service ever (in a Greek church) last Friday, and am looking forward to Holy Week and Pascha!


16 posted on 04/12/2011 5:58:36 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: D-fendr
"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." 1 John 4:7-8"

The trouble is, too many (including the author here)read this passage and then go on to define God by their personal, worldly notions of love rather than defining love by what the Bible tells us of God.

17 posted on 04/12/2011 7:24:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Kolokotronis

The unrepentent sinner can not abide the fire of God’s love so for him it becomes an everlasting torment.


18 posted on 04/12/2011 7:50:51 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: circlecity

True. But I’ve also seen folks come up with some quite different definitions of love by their personal notions of what the Bible tells us of God.

:)


19 posted on 04/12/2011 4:02:26 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Kolokotronis
Καλή Σαρακοστή σε σένα, Kolo μου!

(Happy Lent to you, my Kolo)

20 posted on 04/13/2011 11:31:00 AM PDT by kosta50
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