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MHA in St. George: Welcome to an exciting time! [Mormon History]
Mormon History Association Newsletter ^ | April 2011

Posted on 05/28/2011 12:13:02 PM PDT by Colofornian

After months of planning and preparations, the program for the 2011 meeting of the Mormon History Association, to be held at the well-appointed Dixie Center in St. George, Utah, is now set. Not only will we bask in the sun-splashed beauty of southern Utah, but we look forward to hearing from a terrific lineup of speakers and panels about the latest in Mormon history scholarship.

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Sandwiched between these terrific plenary sessions are six concurrent sessions on Friday and Saturday. You can find a complete listing of papers and presenters in the preliminary program on the MHA 2011 conference website. To whet your appetite, topics will include: the aftermath of the Mountain Meadows Massacre; controversies surrounding various fundamentalist LDS groups; interactions between Native Americans and Latter-day Saints; Mormon educational practices and institutions; plural marriage in southern Utah...

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This history conference began Friday in St. George, Utah and continues this weekend.

From the article: To whet your appetite, topics will include: the aftermath of the Mountain Meadows Massacre; controversies surrounding various fundamentalist LDS groups...plural marriage in southern Utah...

(Southern Utah apparently had higher rates of polygamy than other parts of Utah)

Here is the speaker lineup: Mormon History Association: St. George Conference May 26-29, 2011

The lead-off sessions on Friday included the following sessions (p. 16 of above link):

1A. The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Public Perceptions of Mormonism
“Yearning for Notoriety: Questionable and False Claimants to America’s Worst Emigrant Massacre” Melvin L. Bashore, LDS Church History Department, Salt Lake City, UT
“What Lurked Behind Polygamy: Popular Constructions of Mormonism and the Mountain Meadows Massacre” Janiece Johnson, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT
“John D. Lee’s Execution and the Near Death of Missionary Work” Brian D. Reeves, LDS Church History Department, Salt Lake City, UT
1B. The FLDS and the Outside World “Media Malfeasance? Misrepresentations of the FLDS” Craig L. Foster, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT
“The April 2008 YFZ Texas Raid: Its Impact on the FLDS Community and Other Fundamentalist Mormons” Newell G. Bringhurst, Visalia, CA
“The 1944 Polygamy Raids and the Supreme Court Decisions That Followed” Ken Driggs, Atlanta, GA

p. 21 of the above link says today's lineup includes:

Allred/Jensen Group Fundamentalism
“Prelude to Polygamy: The Early Life of Rulon C. Allred” Eric Paul Rogers, Hamilton, MT
“Beyond Stereotypes: Understanding Diversity within the Allred/Jensen Fundamentalist Group” Joseph Lyman Jessop, St. Anthony, ID
“Descendants of Early Mormon Polygamists among Contemporary Fundamentalists” Marianne T. Watson, Lehi, UT

First of all, hats off to these Mormon historians for addressing controversial historical subject matter when many simply wish these less-than "faith sustaining" historical realities would go away.

Still, when you have a session by an LDS Church History Department employee called:
“Yearning for Notoriety: Questionable and False Claimants to America’s Worst Emigrant Massacre” ya gotta wonder how much of that session was pure spin.

In light of these Mountain Meadows Massacre sessions held yesterday...and to add some balance from a non-Mormon angle of the event, I'll include some excerpts from Sally Denton's 2003 book entitled: American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows, September 1857.

Almost 120 were killed on Sept. 11, 1857 -- the original 9/11 terrorist attack in our country. Committed by Mormons. Overall, about 125 died...seven men were shot dead in the original siege on these emigrants heading from Arkansas to Central CA Sept. 7. The siege ended Sept. 11 with the massacre as the Mormons, per John D. Lee, the only man held accountable for the massacre.

Lee said he was under orders from the Mormon apostle George A. Smith to 'use up' any emigrant wagon train coming through Southern Utah. St. George, Utah is named after this Mormon leader.

"During his final months in jail, Lee would write four conflicting and contradictory confessions. The accounts varied on the role of the individuals. What was consistent in them all was Lee's purpose at the meadow of following the orders of his [Mormon militia] military and spiritual leaders to avenge the blood of the prophets--the oath Lee considered sacred above all else since he had first become 'the Life Guard of the Prophet Joseph Smith' in Nauvoo." (Sally Denton, American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows, September 1857 Vintage Books, division from Random House, p. 231)

1 posted on 05/28/2011 12:13:05 PM PDT by Colofornian
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Excerpts from Sally Denton's 2003 book entitled: American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows, September 1857 (Vintage Books, division from Random House):

“George A. Smith was sent south to personally deliver the [Brigham Young] orders to church leaders along the southern route to California...Gratified by the militia units mustered and drilling in the outlying colonies, the blustering, overweight, and overwrought apostle fueled the Saints' fanaticism and fear of annihilation.” (Denton, p. 115)

“Smith claimed. 'Suppose an emigrant train should come along through this southern country, making threats against our people and bragging of the part they took helping to kill our prophets,' Smith posed to [John D.] Lee. 'What do you think the brethren would do with them? Would they be permitted to go their way, or would the brethren pitch into them and give them a good drubbing?' … Lee told Smith in no uncertain terms that any emigrant train that passed through in the near future would be 'used up' – a euphemism all Mormons understood to mean slaughtered. 'I really believe that any train of emigrants that may come through here will be attacked, and probably all destroyed.' Lee told Smith...” (Denton, p. 116)

George Smith, less than three weeks before the massacre, arrived in Southern Utah in late August, 1857. Smith was both an “apostle” and militia leader in the Lds church. Rachel Lee, one of John D. Lee's wives, recorded messages at the time in her diary that Smith's messages were “full of hostility and virulence.” (Denton, p. 116)

Lee's first trial resulted in a hung jury: "...the eight Mormons and one Jack Mormon favoring acquittal, the three non-Mormons leaning toward conviction" (Denton, p. 226)

Mormon leaders stonewalled witnesses. Brigham Young and George Smith both were conveniently ill...and "Of more than one hundred called, fewer than half would surface, and many of those came under duress." (Denton, p. 225)

"Assistant prosecutor Robert N. Baskin summed up to a packed but silent courtroom. Calling the massacre 'a crime against civilization and humanity,' Baskin accused the Mormon Church of impeding every investigation into the incident and charged Young with being an accessory after the fact." (Denton, p. 226)

The declared mistrial resulted with media coverage that ”seemed to national journalists to be a blatant manipulation of justice only heightened the outrage of a public now widely informed about the atrocity. From New York to Sacramento, editorials cried foul. Charging that the jury was fixed, that the church had colluded to prevent key witnesses from testifying, and that dozens more either had perjured themselves or had had convenient lapses of memory..." (Denton, p. 226)

In Round Two of Lee's trial, Brigham decided they would make Lee the sacrificial lamb by brokering a deal with the prosecutor (Howard): "Young would make available all witnesses and evidence necessary for a conviction of Lee. In exchange [prosecutor] Howard would limit the testimony implicating Young, George Smith, and other church leaders in the affair, and drop charges against Dame." (Denton, p. 228)

2 posted on 05/28/2011 12:14:30 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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Please read these excerpts...they'll just break your heart:

Excerpts from Sally Denton's 2003 book entitled: American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows, September 1857 (Vintage Books, division from Random House):

The murders on Sept. 11, 1857 were over fairly quickly, as about 50 Mormon men carried them out:
“One one of the murderers later remembered that by his gold pocket watch the killings of some 140 men, women, and children had taken no more than three minutes.” (Denton, p. 136)

Some of the victims included “apostate Mormons” who had taken up the opportunity of a wagon train to leave Utah with them: “The Mormon apostate refugees, who were still wearing their endowment garments, were 'blood atoned' by the ritual slitting of throats.” (Denton, p. 137)

The executioners grouped 15-17 child survivors and took them to the Hamblin ranch:

”...two of the children cruelly mangled and the most of them with their parents' blood still wet upon their clothes, and all of them shrieking with terror and grief and anguish...” (Denton, p. 139)
Georgia Ann Dunlap was eighteen months old. Her parents and seven sisters and brothers had just been executed in front of her eyes, and she was now alone with her five-year-old sister, Prudence Angelina, who could not stop sobbing. Emberson Tackitt, four, had watched his mother hacked to death, while his father, two older brothers, an aunt, and three cousins were being shot and their throats cut a few yards away. Gushing blood from the gunshot wound that had mangled her ear, Sarah Frances Baker, three, her five-year-old sister, Mary Elizabeth, and the youngest of the surviving infants, nine-month-old William, had just watched the slaughter of their parents and a seven-year-old sister. Felix Marion Jones was eighteen months old. Within a few minutes his family had been wiped out, and he would not be able to remembered anything about his murdered mother, father and sister. Christopher “Kit Carson” Fancher, five, along with his twenty-two-month—old sister, Triphenia, had seen their wounded father shot in his litter and their mother murdered with an ax, while six brothers and sisters under the age of nineteen were being killed nearby. Nancy Sophrona Huff, at four, was the sole survivor of a family of six annihilated in the same ways. One child died as they arrived at Hamblin's ranch. Another, one-year-old Sarah Dunlap, had had her left arm nearly severed by a musket ball. Clinging frantically to her, their dresses soaked in blood, were her sisters Rebecca, six and Louisa, four. They had all seen the slaughter of their seven brothers and sisters, as well as both parents, and Rebecca had pried her baby sister from the arms of their dead mother.” (Denton, p. 140)

“One-year-old Sarah Dunlap was shot in the elbow, sending all of the children into a frenzy 'One of the Mormons ran up to the wagon, raised his gun and said 'Lord my God, Receive their spirits. It is for Thy Kingdom that I do this,' reported Sallie Baker. She then watched as McMurdy fired at two men who were comforting each other, killing them both with one bullet. She saw the wag driver bludgeon a fourteen-year-old boy to death with the butt of a gun.” (Denton, p. 137)

As it turned out for Sarah Dunlap, she became blinded by an infection (Denton, p. 239).

The children remained as kidnapped victims of the Mormons for two years, finally being re-united with Arkansas relatives on Sept. 15, 1859.

One of the kidnapped victims, Sallie Baker, said of that day: “I remember I called all the women I saw 'mother.' I guess I was still hoping to find my own mother, and every time I called a woman 'mother,' she would break out crying.” (Denton, p. 207)

3 posted on 05/28/2011 12:15:59 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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Excerpts from Sally Denton's 2003 book entitled: American Massacre: The Tragedy at Mountain Meadows, September 1857 (Vintage Books, division from Random House):

It took a Federal Judge, John C. Cradlebaugh, to kick into gear the necessity of attempting accountability for the Meadow Mountain Massacre: “A deeply religious man, he found that his ideas of Christianity were far different from those of this sect, that his own deeply held view of angels bore no similarity to those of the Avenging Angels of Mormondom...as he would later report to Congress, that 'the Mormon church is guilty, of the crimes of murder and robbery as taught in their books of faith.'” (Sally Denton, p. 191)

One of the ways we know that the Mormon church was implicated – either as part of the plot or criminal cover-up – is how the wagon train's plunder was dealt with:

“The plunder proceed with a strange quiet. Women from Cedar City and nearby settlements arrived to remove the calico dresses and lace pinafores of the women and children, pulling off their expensive shoes, and ripping earrings, brooches, and rings off the corpses, most to be turned over to the church. 'Their fine stock, their pleasure vehicles, their musical instruments, and abundant and elegant outfit, excited the cupidity of the sacerdotal robbers,' the Salt Lake Daily Tribune later reported...” (Denton, P. 149)

“'There was no clothing left on man, woman or child, except that a torn stocking leg clung to the angle of one.” Haight, Higbee, and Dame would argue asa well over the distribution of goods. The bloody clothing and bedding that had been gathered by the women and others were taken to the cellar of the church tithing office in Cedar City...As for the reported $100,000 worth of gold said to be on the train, most of what was retrieved—the actual amount would never be revealed—was turned over to the church treasury in Salt Lake City. The forty wagons were given to local Mormons for use in hauling lead ore from Nevada. The carriages emblazoned with stags' heads were transported to Salt Lake City, where at least one of them was used by Brigham Young. Approximately nine hundred head of cattle were corralled near Cedar City, branded with the church's 'cross,' and driven north to the capital.” (Denton, p. 150)

Klingensmith was a Lutheran to Mormon convert who became a witness in the Lee trial: "He told how he traveled to Salt Lake City in October 1857 and in the presence of Lee and another witness discussed with Young the details of the murders and the distribution of the plunder. Klingensmith testified that Young ordered him to turn over all the loot from the massacre to Lee. The cattle had been branded with a cross--the church designation...” (Denton, p. 224)

Per Denton, the Cedar City Mormons post-massacre “flaunted their windfall”: “...others passing through the territory remarked on the new prosperity among the settlers. A drover named Hugo Hickman had observed the 'poverty and rags' worn by the residents of Cedar City in early 1857. But now he 'was greatly surprised to see the people so well dressed, in States Jeans [jeans made in the United States instead of homespun in Zion], Silks and Satins...rich in clothing, cattle, wagons, julery [sick] and money.' Hickman wrote in his diary that a local friend told him 'all the property and clothing' he saw 'knocking around came from the Mountain Meddows.' [sic].” (Denton, p. 173)

4 posted on 05/28/2011 12:17:08 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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****The bloody clothing and bedding that had been gathered by the women and others were taken to the cellar of the church tithing office in Cedar City****

I read, long ago, that the tithing office stank like a slaughter house for years afterward.


5 posted on 05/28/2011 12:39:54 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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"He told how he traveled to Salt Lake City in October 1857 and in the presence of Lee and another witness discussed with Young the details of the murders and the distribution of the plunder. Klingensmith testified that Young ordered him to turn over all the loot from the massacre to Lee. The cattle had been branded with a cross--the church designation...” (Denton, p. 224)

Hmmm...and we've been told the mormons don't use the Cross because...????

6 posted on 05/28/2011 12:55:52 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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***Hmmm...and we’ve been told the mormons don’t use the Cross because...???? ****

Maybe it was the “King’s X”.


7 posted on 05/28/2011 1:02:48 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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Worth Repeating to understand this Mormon Crime Against Humanity:

”...two of the children cruelly mangled and the most of them with their parents' blood still wet upon their clothes, and all of them shrieking with terror and grief and anguish...” (Denton, p. 139) “Georgia Ann Dunlap was eighteen months old. Her parents and seven sisters and brothers had just been executed in front of her eyes, and she was now alone with her five-year-old sister, Prudence Angelina, who could not stop sobbing.

Emberson Tackitt, four, had watched his mother hacked to death, while his father, two older brothers, an aunt, and three cousins were being shot and their throats cut a few yards away. Gushing blood from the gunshot wound that had mangled her ear, Sarah Frances Baker, three, her five-year-old sister, Mary Elizabeth, and the youngest of the surviving infants, nine-month-old William, had just watched the slaughter of their parents and a seven-year-old sister. Felix Marion Jones was eighteen months old.

Within a few minutes his family had been wiped out, and he would not be able to remembered anything about his murdered mother, father and sister.

Christopher “Kit Carson” Fancher, five, along with his twenty-two-month—old sister, Triphenia, had seen their wounded father shot in his litter and their mother murdered with an ax, while six brothers and sisters under the age of nineteen were being killed nearby.

Nancy Sophrona Huff, at four, was the sole survivor of a family of six annihilated in the same ways. One child died as they arrived at Hamblin's ranch.

Another, one-year-old Sarah Dunlap, had had her left arm nearly severed by a musket ball. Clinging frantically to her, their dresses soaked in blood, were her sisters Rebecca, six and Louisa, four. They had all seen the slaughter of their seven brothers and sisters, as well as both parents, and Rebecca had pried her baby sister from the arms of their dead mother.” (Denton, p. 140)

“One-year-old Sarah Dunlap was shot in the elbow, sending all of the children into a frenzy 'One of the Mormons ran up to the wagon, raised his gun and said 'Lord my God, Receive their spirits. It is for Thy Kingdom that I do this,' reported Sallie Baker. [the mormon equivalent of Alah Akbar!] She then watched as McMurdy fired at two men who were comforting each other, killing them both with one bullet. She saw the wag driver bludgeon a fourteen-year-old boy to death with the butt of a gun.” (Denton, p. 137)

How Did they feel about their crime against humanity?

“The plunder proceed with a strange quiet. [Mormon] Women from Cedar City and nearby settlements arrived to remove the calico dresses and lace pinafores of the women and children, pulling off their expensive shoes, and ripping earrings, brooches, and rings off the corpses, most to be turned over to the church. 'Their fine stock, their pleasure vehicles, their musical instruments, and abundant and elegant outfit, excited the cupidity of the sacerdotal robbers,' the Salt Lake Daily Tribune later reported...”

8 posted on 05/28/2011 1:02:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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3...2...1....until someone jumps in and compares this massacre of women and children and theft of goods to the ongoing persecution of mormons, up to and including the persecution on FR today.

They've taken the "good defense is a good offense" to spectacular levels with this for decades.

9 posted on 05/28/2011 2:09:09 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: greyfoxx39; aMorePerfectUnion; Colofornian; Elsie; colorcountry

And guess where 50 of these fine individuals will be early on Tuesday morning? You guessed it.

http://www.thunderbirdfoundation.com/calendar.cfm

They will be here and I get to put my own spin on it.

I’ll be nice.


10 posted on 05/28/2011 2:56:27 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Inman FReepers Meet July 23 At the Maynard Dixon Home and Studio JR Too!)
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To: Utah Binger

You da man!

Lord; may his words touch hearts and Your Spirit convict souls.

Let Your will be done in Southern Utah.


11 posted on 05/28/2011 4:18:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian

If you want to read more about this topic a good book is,
"Mormonism, Mama and Me" by Thelma Geer.  She is a descendant
of John D. Lee.  The book is a free download on a Kindle.
Very enlightening.  I just recently finished reading it. 




12 posted on 05/28/2011 7:32:53 PM PDT by fulltlt
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To: Elsie
Here is the "Best of Show" tonight in Ephraim. Not great but best of the worst. She is a Chinese lady married to a Morgbot. I found a liquor store in Richfield so I am in great shape. No Danish food at the Scandinavian Festival and no Tuborg. Shucks.I went across the street to the bowling alley and had a Chicken Fried Steak. That's the rule in Utah. When in doubt...eat Chicken Fried Steak.


13 posted on 05/28/2011 9:13:48 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Inman FReepers Meet July 23 At the Maynard Dixon Home and Studio JR Too!)
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Looks like some abandoned buildings that used to be on UT-24 along the Dirty Devil, west of Hanksville.


14 posted on 05/29/2011 5:27:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: fulltlt; greyfoxx39; Zakeet; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; Utah Binger; All
Yes, I have that book...and have heard her speak.

ALL: BTW, I discovered this 2003 thread about Sally Denton's book on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: Mountain Meadows massacre analysis ends with an accusation

Here is a quote from the article in that thread: Denton comes even closer to saying Young knew in advance and probably ordered the killings. She gets as close to making that charge as a serious scholar can (and this book, regardless of whether you agree with the author's conclusions, is indeed serious scholarship) without a signed confession. She repeatedly calls Young a dictator, depicts him as mean-spirited and claims he lied when he denied that Mormons perpetrated the killings...Young from office. Young had been appointed governor of Utah Territory by President Millard Fillmore and ran Utah more as a theocracy than as a territory of the United States. Buchanan intended to establish U.S. authority over Utah. Young responded by putting Utah under martial law, ordering the destruction of army supplies and preparing to go to war with the United States. Under any reasonable definition of the term, he was guilty of treason. Buchanan avoided a shooting war between Utah and the United States partly by promising Young and other Mormon leaders a pardon from charges of treason. The war was averted, but the massacre had taken place. Brooks wrote near the end of her book, "While Brigham Young . . . did not specifically order the massacre, [he] did preach sermons and set up social conditions which made it possible." Bagley wrote, "As long as modern [church leaders] deny that the LDS church had 'any complicity in the occurrences of that fateful day,' they can never come to terms with the truth." Denton writes, "Within the context of the era and the history of Brigham Young's complete authoritarian control over his domain and his followers, it is inconceivable that a crime of this magnitude could have occurred without direct orders from him."

15 posted on 05/29/2011 12:52:08 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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To: Utah Binger

Looks like my GGrandmothers place in Unita County.


16 posted on 05/29/2011 1:09:42 PM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: Colofornian
"While Brigham Young Jeremiah Wright . . . did not specifically order the massacre, [he] did preach sermons and set up social conditions which made it possible." Bagley Reporters wrote, "As long as modern [church leaders] Democrats deny that the LDS Wright's church had 'any complicity in the occurrences of that fateful day,' they can never come to terms with the truth." Denton Reporters writes, "Within the context of the era and the history of Brigham Young Obama's complete authoritarian control over his domain and his followers, it is inconceivable that a crime of this magnitude could have occurred without direct orders from him."


"I shot Osama!"

17 posted on 05/29/2011 2:13:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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