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To: Colofornian
This ought make me extremely popular.

So long as everyone involved is an adult and freely chooses, multiple marriage ought be allowed as a matter of freedom of personal choice.

And, no, I am not advocating same sex marriage, just polygamy or even polyandry, if freely chosen.

p.s. I am not a Mormon.

10 posted on 05/29/2011 4:43:30 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Robwin
So long as everyone involved is an adult and freely chooses, multiple marriage ought be allowed as a matter of freedom of personal choice. And, no, I am not advocating same sex marriage, just polygamy or even polyandry, if freely chosen.

OK. Except now you've just redefined marriage.

#1 If you're "OK" with one man and 10 female partners, and advocate for "multiple marriage" -- then what's wrong with "group marriage" with say, 7 females & 5 males?

#2 By redefining marriage, you are square in opposition to none other than Jesus Christ: 4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the TWO
My note: Not the three, four, five, six, etc.
Continuing: will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” (Matthew 19:4-6)

The way you tell it, the 10 may become "one flesh." And so you have women becoming "one flesh" to each other?

I don't think so. That's not the way Jesus saw it, and by you insinuating that "sister wives" can become "one flesh" to each other, all that does is indeed open the door to "same-sex 'marriage.'"

#5 And so are you going to lead the crusade to get corporations to pay for benefits for multiple partners? Really?

#4 Then there's the socio-political pathological governmental consequences.

I've seen articles this year saying that China has a gender imbalance of 24-30 million more men than women? Why? Because of the Chinese government & its citizens have killed off about that many more female infants (pre-born and already-born). And it's actually more than that: The numbers will continue to surge each year that more Chinese reach their "marriage-able" years.

If I was a forecaster, I would say this unabated trend would eventually lead to a war if for no other reason than to secure available wives.

Polygamy does the same thing culturally as sex-selection abortion/infanticide. It keeps more women from a vast number of men.

#5 There's other fall-out as well. Polygamy has been proven to actually reduce the number of children. You can find the evidence here: Polygamy hurt 19th century Mormon wives' evolutionary fitness

Using statistical models, Indiana U. was able to prove that polygamy reduced the number of children by one-per-Mom!

It doesn't matter if you increase the number of children per men; if you reduce it per women, you are heading toward sexual suicide like Italy, South Korea, Japan, and many other European countries. And then you wind up having to rely more upon an immigrant (legal & illegal) population to fill the labor gaps -- like Europe is doing. And then people wonder why they have the Muslimization of Europe!

#6 I'm not done with the fall-out: If we've already seen the pathological damage of single men in our culture winding up in large numbers becoming dead-beat dads, why would you want the government to sanction a new "family relationship" that has a multiplier effect if a man cops out on multiple wives within a short frame of time?

Overall, you're libertarian streak exhibited in this marital experimentation advocacy of yours shows a tremendous lack of foresight.

Actions have consequences beyond your household.

27 posted on 05/29/2011 6:40:39 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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To: Robwin

“So long as everyone involved is an adult and freely chooses, multiple marriage ought be allowed as a matter of freedom of personal choice.”

I tend to agree, but only if others aren’t forced to recognize whatever a bunch of crazy people decide to call marriage. But it seems to me in societies that have traditional polygamy the “adult” and “freely chooses” stipulations are rarely enforced. I mean, apart from the law, what’s the real difference between a brainwashed 16 year old as compared to a brainwashed 20 year old?

I do remember hearing that a small number of Jews practiced polygamy in some Islamic countries where it was legal, but I seem to recall it was more about marrying relatives widows(could be wrong). I think Israel grandfathered some of the marriages in when they moved there, if I recall. Israel doesn’t allow polygamy, but I take it a small number practice it underground, like they do in the USA.

Freegards


28 posted on 05/29/2011 6:41:50 PM PDT by Ransomed
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