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For you non-Mormons allow me to interpret some of the terms: "From the Plates" (linked to Duran's session) = a reference to the supposed up to 234-pound gold plates that Joseph Smith hauled back, at one pointing running with them "at the top of his speed"...see How Heavy Were Those Gold Plates? for details.

Joshua Madson did a session called “A Nonviolent Reading of the Book of Mormon”...This is an absolutely hilarious "interpretation" of the Book of Mormon! If you've read any part of the Book of Mormon, it's a myth-book of wars upon wars where they're slaughtering each other to the last man!

For example, in the book of Alma in almost every chapter are accounts of perpetual wars and implausible battles. And it's the longest book in the BoM at 60-some chapters. What's funny in the Book of Alma is that when you look at Alma 30:2 it says there was "continual peace" that finally broke out 74 B.C. Then fast-forward to Alma 35:13, where it's two years later, and war was issued. "Continual peace" was two years???? :)

Also, I'd like to know what "weapons of peace" they had back then (Alma 24:19)! Joseph Smith's writing is such that he starts off Alma, in 1:1, saying "having warred a good warfare"... Hmmm...

In the book of Ether, after a character named Coriantumr started second-guessing whether having two million of his people killed by swords (boy, that's a lot of sword blood-letting), he cut off a character's head by the name of Shiz (Ether 15:30). The NEXT verse says what happened to Shiz AFTER his head was cut off: ...AFTER he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised upon his hands and fell;
and AFTER that he had struggled for breath, he died.

Hmmm...No head...still was able to raise himself up on his hands...then was struggling for breath...

O-Kayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

2 posted on 05/30/2011 12:32:56 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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To: Colofornian
“A Nonviolent Reading of the Book of Mormon”..

It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. That's all the BOM is full of is murder and mayhem; like trying to read "Macbeth" and leave out all the nasty stuff.

8 posted on 05/30/2011 1:40:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer (It's not the police that protect our rights, it's our military)
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To: Colofornian
If you've read any part of the Book of Mormon, it's a myth-book of wars upon wars where they're slaughtering each other to the last man!


 
MORMON
Chapter 6

The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.

1 And now I finish my record concerning the destruction of my people, the Nephites. And it came to pass that we did march forth before the Lamanites.

2 And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah, and there we could give them battle.

3 And it came to pass that the king of the Lamanites did grant unto me the thing which I desired. 

4 And it came to pass that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents around about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers, and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites.

5 And *when three hundred and eighty and four years had passed away, we had gathered in all the remainder of our people unto the land of Cumorah.

6 And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni.

7 And it came to pass that my people, with their wives and their children, did now behold the armies of the Lamanites marching towards them; and with that awful fear of death which fills the breasts of all the wicked, did they await to receive them.

8 And it came to pass that they came to battle against us, and every soul was filled with terror because of the greatness of their numbers.

9 And it came to pass that they did fall upon my people with the sword, and with the bow, and with the arrow, and with the ax, and with all manner of weapons of war.

10 And it came to pass that my men were hewn down, yea, even my ten thousand who were with me, and I fell wounded in the midst; and they passed by me that they did not put an end to my life.

11And when they had gone through and hewn down all my people save it were twenty and four of us, (among whom was my son Moroni) and we having survived the dead of our people, did behold on the morrow, when the Lamanites had returned unto their camps, from the top of the hill Cumorah, the ten thousand of my people who were hewn down, being led in the front by me.

12 And we also beheld the ten thousand of my people who were led by my son Moroni.

13 And behold, the ten thousand of Gidgiddonah had fallen, and he also in the midst.

14 And Lamah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Gilgal had fallen with his ten thousand; and Limhah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Jeneum had fallen with his ten thousand; and Cumenihah, and Moronihah, and Antionum, and Shiblom, and Shem, and Josh, had fallen with their ten thousand each.

15 And it came to pass that there were ten more who did fall by the sword, with their ten thousand each; yea, even all my people, save it were those twenty and four who were with me, and also a few who had escaped into the south countries, and a few who had deserted over unto the Lamanites, had fallen; and their flesh, and bones, and blood lay upon the face of the earth, being left by the hands of those who slew them to molder upon the land, and to crumble and to return to their mother earth.

16 And my soul was rent with anguish, because of the slain of my people, and I cried:

17 O ye fair ones, how could ye have departed from the ways of the Lord! O ye fair ones, how could ye have rejected that Jesus, who stood with open arms to receive you!

18 Behold, if ye had not done this, ye would not have fallen. But behold, ye are fallen, and I mourn your loss.

19 O ye fair sons and daughters, ye fathers and mothers, ye husbands and wives, ye fair ones, how is it that ye could have fallen!

20 But behold, ye are gone, and my sorrows cannot bring your return.

21 And the day soon cometh that your mortal must put on immortality, and these bodies which are now moldering in corruption must soon become incorruptible bodies; and then ye must stand before the judgment-seat of Christ, to be judged according to your works; and if it so be that ye are righteous, then are ye blessed with your fathers who have gone before you.

22 O that ye had repented before this great destruction had come upon you. But behold, ye are gone, and the Father, yea, the Eternal Father of heaven, knoweth your state; and he doeth with you according to his justice and mercy.


 
 
Mormon 8:2
And now it came to pass that after the great and tremendous battle at Cumorah, behold, the Nephites who had escaped into the country southward were hunted by the Lamanites, until they were all destroyed.


20 posted on 05/30/2011 5:59:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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