Jealous?
What separates the Mormons from any other Christian organizations (besides the fact that “folks” think it isn’t Christian...) who invest their tithes into things, places and entities that produce income?
“Folks” are so hung up on the word “MORMON” that they won’t even condider the true name of the church: The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.”
“Folks” are so pitiful in their anti-arguments. *sheesh*
Jealous?
No. (Especially of their destiny unless they cut shore their desire to compete with God as yet more gods in the universe)
What separates the Mormons from any other Christian organizations (besides the fact that “folks” think it isn’t Christian...) who invest their tithes into things, places and entities that produce income?
Please name me a Christian organization that is building a shopping mall? The closest thing I can think of was that theme park, Heritage USA in South Carolina from the 1980s -- complete with a luxury hotel -- that the corrupt Bakkers built. Heritage USA reached the level of the third-most frequented theme park in the country.
Per Wikipedia: Bakker "sold" more "exclusive partnerships" [in being able to stay @ the hotel] than could be accommodated, while raising more than twice the money needed to build the actual hotel. A good deal of the money went into Heritage USA's operating expenses... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker
Well, as I mentioned in post #7, Mormons are so hung up with lambasting these past 180 years the historic worldwide Christian church that it won't acknowledge any other "saints" than themselves! Per Joseph Smith, in the Doctrines & Covenants 1:30, the Mormon church considers itself the "only true and living church on the face of the earth."
To the Mormons there were no "former-day Saints" living in the fourth (or earlier) century til the 19th century!
Do you know what that especially means on this July 4th weekend? It means that the Mormon church regards 100% of our country's founding fathers as apostates!
Like some 6 billion and counting spent on a shopping mall in SLC?
“Folks” are so hung up on the word “MORMON” that they won’t even condider the true name of the church: The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.”
Started out as the "Church of Christ" 1830
Changed it to "The Church of the Latter Day Saints" in 1834
It wasn't until 1838 that it became "The CHURCH of Jesus Christ of LATTER DAY SAINTS", yes folks, notice the change of emphasis. That occured only recently.
BTW - the mormon church uses www.mormon.com (and derivitives) for itself - so they must be hung up on it as well.
>>>>“Folks” are so hung up on the word “MORMON” that they won’t even condider the true name of the church: The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.”<<<<
Give me a break. Mormon is not some slur invented by real Chrisitans or other non-Mormons. LDS members identify themselves as “Mormon” all the time.
Or is the MORMON Tabernacle Choir part of some splinter group? What about all those TV ads that end with “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints -— The Mormons”?
As for the financial issues, I don’t have any problem with the Mormon Church having all those assets.
My problem is that they teach a different “word of God” (the book of Mormon) and a different Gospel, a different “Jesus” and a different God the Father, that are are fundamentally different from the authenthic, biblical ones. Many of their teachings about God are downright blasphemous.
The name Jesus Christ is wothin the official name Church of Jesus Christ of...just as the name Jehovah is within the name Jehovah’s Witness.
So going by names alone, are both denominations biblically or equally biblical or both teach true doctrine? :)
I prefer calling your religion the LDS since Mormonsim insults Jesus and God by defining a different god and a different jesus than in the Bible. But thanks you for your concern, Momron.
Living in a garage would not make you a car any more than being a mormon makes you a Christian.
mormonISM does not teach a belief in the Biblical Jesus, mormonISM does not teach a belief in the Biblical God.
satan lied to Eve - you to can be god
satan lied to Joseph Smith - you to can be god
Joseph Smith lied to everyone - you to can be god
What is there to be jealous about that?
And was that the First Name of the Church of Joseph Smith.
Answer No. for 8 years J.Smith had various names for his church.
So. tell us again why the present name means so much ?
(oh and by the way one of those names did not have the name of Jesus Christ in it either..)
Can you tell me...why they aren't taking those BILLIONS and doing good works?
The arguments against Mormonism by true Christians go far beyond Tithing.
Starting with what you point out, the misuse of the Name of Jesus Christ. The “true name” of the church is its most offense part. Hence the use of the more appropriate term “Mormon”. Christ has nothing to do with Mormonism, to them it is just a marketing lable.
Can't see why that is an issue, until the PR campaign “we are Christians too” started 20 years ago, the Mormon wanted to be known as anything BUT Christian.
Other???
Mormonism is not a Christian organization.
"Salvation in its true and full meaning is synonymous with exaltation or eternal life and consists in gaining an inheritance in the highest of the three heavens within the celestial kingdom… It is the salvation which the saints seek. It is of this which the Lord says, ‘There is no greater gift than the gift of salvation'. (Doctrine and Covenants [D&C] 6:13.)
This full salvation is obtained in and through the continuation of the family unit in eternity, and those who obtain it are gods. (D&C 131:1-4; 132.)
Full salvation is attained by virtue of knowledge, truth, righteousness, and all true principles. Many conditions must exist in order to make such a salvation available to men. Without the atonement, the gospel, the priesthood, and the sealing power, there would be no salvation. Without continuous revelation, the ministering of angels, the working of miracles, the prevalence of gifts of the spirit, there would be no salvation. If it had not been for Joseph Smith and restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 669-671).
At the October 2009 Latter Day Saint (Mormon) General Conference LDS “apostle” Jeffrey Holland gave a “testimony” of the Book of Mormon. He said, “I testify that one cannot come to full faith in this Latter-day work and thereby find the fullest measure of peace and comfort in these our times until he or she embraces the divinity of the Book of Mormon and the Lord Jesus Christ of whom it testifies. If anyone is foolish enough or misled enough to reject 531 pages of a heretofore unknown text, teeming with literary and Semitic complexity, without honestly attempting to account for the origin of those pages somehow–especially without accounting for their powerful witness of Jesus Christ and the profound spiritual impact that witness has had on what is now tens of millions of readers–if that’s the case then such persons, elect or otherwise, have been deceived. And if they leave this Church, they must do so by crawling over, or under, or around the Book of Mormon to make their exit.” (Jeffrey R. Holland, Oct. 4, 2009, reported in Salt Lake Tribune.)
“I am suggesting that we make exactly the same kind of do-or-die bold assertion about the restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ [as we do of] the divine origins of the Book of Mormon. We have to. Reason and rightness require it. Accept Joseph Smith as a prophet and the book [of Mormon] as miraculously revealed and revered word of the Lord it is or else consign both man and book to Hades for the devastating deception of it all, but let’s not have any bizarre middle ground about the wonderful contours of a young boy’s imagination or his remarkable facility for turning a literary phrase. That is an unacceptable position to take…” (Jeffrey R. Holland - New Era, June 1995, p. 64).
Apostle Holland does not list actual doctrinal teachings from the BoM that would make the BoM important to the Church. He cannot, for none of the important Mormon doctrines are found in the Book of Mormon. He is just saying that it is Joseph Smith’s credibility that is in question, that if the book is not true, then Joseph Smith is a deceiver and his church a hoax.
In an August 11, 2007 feature, Book explores the life of Islam's founder - Deseret Morning News, Professor Peterson is said to be acquiring, "... a reputation for defending a faith that's not his own, but Peterson said he's OK with that role. 'I'm a very active Latter-day Saint, but I've found myself in this role of being a defender of Islam. I just think somebody has to do something'"
Anyone who proclaims the name of Jesus--even though his understanding of who that is may be far removed from the biblical Jesus--is nevertheless accepted as a brother in Christ. Conservativism, political or otherwise, is seen to be the glue of spiritual fellowship, and its characteristics have taken on scriptural status and a basis for kinship. I've been told that "Beck must be a Christian because he's all about turning our country back to its Christian roots." That's erroneous on at least two counts.
A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints may refer to themselves as being Christian, but they're certainly not a biblical Christian. The distinction is as wide as hell is from heaven: "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God" (cf. II Jno 9). Mormon doctrine is "another gospel" that exalts "another Jesus." Both false beliefs came out of the deceived and deceiving mind of Joseph Smith.
Secondly, "our country" doesn't have "Christian roots," even though some are claiming that our founding fathers were true Christians. Many were not biblical Christians but Christians in name only, who followed the faith of Deism, Masonry, and the philosophy of the Enlightenment. Any early influence in America's history of a biblical nature very likely came from the Pilgrims and the Puritans.
I could go on for a very long time; you would NOT like it. Do NOT ask a stupid question like that again. You will regret doing so.