Posted on 01/08/2012 3:52:13 PM PST by bibletruth
Jeremiah 18 clearly teaches us that Israel is the CLAY and God is the Potter. Compare Scripture with Scripture to learn word usage and word topic identification/definition from the OT for use inside the NT
Jeremiah 18:5: Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
Jeremiah 18:6: O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.
STUDY Scripture carefully, we clearly see that the house of Israel is the CLAY and God is the POTTER - Jeremiah 18:6...Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.
Israel is the CLAY!!!! This is Biblical!!!
So Jeremiah 18:2-6 is the lens through which all the rest of the Scriptures should be viewed and interpreted? I see.
Brings a little clarity to the statue in Daniel 2, doesn’t it?
The word clay is first used in Exodus 1:14
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
followed by Exo 2:3; Jer 18:4 and Nah 3:14
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that begs the question,
who is “ISRAEL” in the Scriptures?
I gather with the true Israel every Sunday morning.
“ISRAEL” in the Scriptures in the New Testament is the reference always to the Jewish people whom God chose to be His people, but subsequently rejected their Messiah progressively in the book of Acts and culminated in Acts 6:9 - Acts 7:60, when the Nation Israel rejected Stephen and the Holy Spirit witness that was inside him. Then, Israel because set aside because of unbelief, God broke off the branches that the Gentiles might be graffed in:
Romans 11:19: Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Romans 11:20: Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
"ISREAL" is the branch in this section of Scripture, that points out that Israel was set aside, broken off, in order that the Gentiles might be graphed in the the blessings of God. This is clear and succinctly taught in Scriptures in Romans 11:25 that Israel has been broken off, blinded:
Romans 11:25: For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
God graphed in Gentiles, not Israel, that the Gentiles may have eternal life and salvation. God did not make the Gentiles Israel: that is impossible: for if the Gentiles were Israel, then Scriptures in Romans 11:25 that teaches that Israel has been blinded would apply to ALL Gentiles as well! We cannot mix two peoples into one!
However, what God did do is make a new man, the one new man, which consists of both Jew and Gentile. But this new man is not called ISREAL! It is the true invisible members of all believers all over the world who are In Christ, in His Body, the Body of Christ. The salvation of Israel AS A NATION is a future fulfillment in Bible prophecy, not a present reality.
Some people persist to continue to call believers today Israel, but they confuse the Scripture truths in Romans 9-11 that clearly and succinctly teach that today Israel is blinded and set aside.
something tells me there are many on here that have no idea what you are talking about.
wrong, wrong, wrong, 1000 times wrong.
The Israel of God is the Church, comprised of Jewish and Gentile believers.
Israel has nothing to do with DNA.
"He who has eyes let him see"
exhibit A is post #8
Yep. Someone missed the verse about who the "true vine" is.
Israel of God is NOT the current Church - you clearly DO NOT understand God's Word in Romans 9-11. DNA is NOT the issue, but God has set Israel aside and broke off the branches to let in the Gentiles. When you are in heaven God will vindicate His Word on Romans 9-11 and then you will learn the truth
exhibit A : post #8 is Biblically CORRECT as per GOD’s WORD not MAN’s (pope) words.
do you believe “ so all Israel shall be saved “ is true?
if yes, who is “ all Israel “?
Romans 10:21: But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
We see here that GOD has called Israel a disobedient and gainsaying people; this is obvious NOT a saved group of people at the time of Romans or at this present time TODAY.
Romans 11:26: And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
We see here succinctly that GOD has said - And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
IF some religious organization today refers to Israel among them, then per GOD's WORD those called Israel would still today be referred to as a 'disobedient and gainsaying people' - which is a status of NOT SAVED YET! Therefore, as outlined by GOD's WORD, Israel today is NOT SAVED YET. These Scriptures are so very clear and succinct I cannot conceive of an opposite understanding that would promote that Israel is among us today as in the status of a saved people...Today it is Gentiles who have been graffed in to replace Israel that was broken off. This is clear in Romans - do you read and understand Romans? Have you read with understanding Romans 9-11? If so, please explain them from GOD's Viewpoint, not man's...
Israel is Jewish people - not, NOT Gentiles, and not, NOT Gentiles today nor Jews today in the Church
so “all” Jewish people will be saved?
really? the unbelieving Pharisees will be saved? Judas will be saved?
no, this can’t be. The Church is Israel, not some DNA.
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