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To: steve86
I don’t know about “more Catholic than the Pope” but more Catholic than Vatican II, certainly.

You make a distinction without a difference. I note that radical "traditionalists" and radical modernists make the same error of viewing Vatican II as a rupture with the previous 1900 years of the Church.

It was not, and is not, and all the hideous abuses committed in the name of the spurious "spirit of vatican 2" are no more Catholic than the silly idea that a rogue bishop has the authority to go looping off on his own, creating an ecclesial community in defiance of the Pope.

A plague o' both their houses.

14 posted on 05/23/2012 2:41:00 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
It was not, and is not

Sure it is. We were warned. "Starting about 1960 it will be more clear".

16 posted on 05/23/2012 3:25:56 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: ArrogantBustard
You make a distinction without a difference

I consider those who try to make a distinction between Vatican II and the "abuses" of Vatican II the ones to be guilty of 'distinction without a difference'.

The proof is in the rotten fruits thereof, misinterpreted or not.

17 posted on 05/23/2012 3:30:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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