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Friday penance in the Octave of Christmas revisited (Fr. Z reverses himself)
WDTPRS ^ | Dec. 29, 2012 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 12/29/2012 5:24:09 PM PST by Hieronymus

Yesterday I facetiously posted about Friday penance during the Octave of Christmas.

Days (other than Sunday) within the Octave of Christmas are not “heavy enough” (as a “solemnity” would be) to “outweigh” the Friday obligation to do some sort of penance as determined by the conferences of bishops. In the 1962 Missale Romanum they are “II class”, which corresponds to the newer, non-traditional calendar’s “feast”. In the 2001 Missale Romanum they are categorized as second class, as “feasts”. If, howeverm you are at a parish named “Holy Innocents”, such as that great place in Manhattan, and the Feast of the Holy Innocents falls on the Friday, you might argue that it is greater due to it being the patronal feast.

Bottom line, the Octave of Christmas does not have the “weight” of the Octave of Easter.

So, pay attention to can. 1251.

Can. 1251 Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.

And, you can ask your parish priest to dispense you or commute your act of penance.

Can. 1245 Without prejudice to the right of diocesan bishops mentioned in can. 87, for a just cause and according to the prescripts of the diocesan bishop, a pastor[parish priest] can grant in individual cases a dispensation from the obligation of observing a feast day or a day of penance or can grant a commutation of the obligation into other pious works. A superior of a religious institute or society of apostolic life, if they are clerical and of pontifical right, can also do this in regard to his own subjects and others living in the house day and night.

You can substitute another form of penance for abstaining from meat. Make it penitential, however. Abstinence from meat has good reasoning behind it. For some, however, there abstinence from other things can be of greater spiritual effect.


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: abstinence; christmas; friday; frz
Useful for reference next year.
1 posted on 12/29/2012 5:24:22 PM PST by Hieronymus
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To: NYer; Coleus; Campion; trisham; A.A. Cunningham; AnAmericanMother; iowamark; M Kehoe; ...

FWIW—Fr. Z was off yesterday—and had the humility to reverse himself.


2 posted on 12/29/2012 5:32:35 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: ottbmare; halfright

I thought that you might be interested in this. Even those who are generally the most informed sometimes get it wrong—there is always more to learn about the faith. Fortunately, you can tell that they are good by the very fact that they are willing to reverse themselves.


3 posted on 12/29/2012 5:36:52 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus

is poultry considered ‘meat’? fish apparently isn’t..

what do the sages say?


4 posted on 12/29/2012 5:41:39 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: RitchieAprile

Poultry, in almost all circumstances, has been and is considered meat. I am aware of some theologians, none living (though undoubtedly there are some) who will argue that water fowl are fish—or at least not meat—in some places and circumstances. I wouldn’t give any weight at all to anything such a theologian says, either on the topic of meat or of anything else.


5 posted on 12/29/2012 5:59:26 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: RitchieAprile

Plan for fish, cheese, eggs only.


6 posted on 12/29/2012 7:54:15 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Hieronymus

Thank you.


7 posted on 12/29/2012 10:04:49 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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