Posted on 04/22/2013 3:54:49 PM PDT by markomalley
"A saint now!" The canonisation of Wojtyla is getting closer quickly and it could be celebrated next October. In fact, in the past few days, the medical council of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints has recognized as inexplicable one healing attributed to the blessed John Paul II. A supposed "miracle" that, if it is also approved by theologians and the cardinals (as it is very likely), will bring the Polish Pope, who died in 2005, the halo of sainthood in record time, just eight years after his death.
It all happened in great secrecy, with maximum confidentiality. In January, the postulator of the cause, Mgr. Slawomir Oder, submitted a presumed miraculous healing to the Vatican Congregation for the Saints for a preliminary opinion. As it is known, after the approval of a miracle for the proclamation of a blessed, the canonical procedures include the recognition of a second miracle that must have occurred after the beatification ceremony.
Two doctors of the Vatican council had previously examined this new case, and both gave a favourable opinion. The dossier with the medical records and the testimonies was then officially presented to the Congregation, which immediately included the examination in its agenda. In the past few days it was discussed by a committee of seven doctors, the council (presided over by Dr. Patrick Polisca, Pope John Paul II's cardiologist), Pope Benedict XVI's personal physicians and now Pope Francis's. The medical council also gave a favourable opinion, the first official go-ahead by the Vatican, by defining as inexplicable the healing attributed to the intercession of the blessed Karol Wojtyla.
This is the overcoming of the first fundamental hurdle, given that the alleged miracle must now be approved by theologians and then by the cardinals and bishops of the Congregation, before being subjected to the Pope for the definitive "yes". In any case, the approval of the council is considered the most important step; in fact, neither the theologians nor the cardinals are involved in the clinical evaluations concerning the case.
From the steps taken, the desire of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints to work quickly is evident, as it had already happened for the beatification of Pope John Paul II, celebrated by his successor Benedict XVI the 1st of May, 2011. This fast lane that continues to be open for Wojtyla indicates that even Pope Francis is in favour of the canonisation of the Polish Pope.
It is still premature to talk about dates for the canonization, but the rapidity with which the examination of the miracle process is happening still leaves open the possibility of celebrating it on Sunday October 20th, very close to the liturgical holiday assigned to the blessed Wojtyla, which is on October 22nd.
Yes, and a miracle happened there, on that spot.
A miracle not by him, but for him.
Both St. Peter and St. Paul raised people from the dead.
Stretch your mind, please. This is just the way the Catholic Church does it.
They HAVE to have PEOOF of the two miracles.
Again, God identified who He considers to be saints.
If you or a religious group changes the definition to suit your own purposes, that does not change God’s definition. Out of the two definitions, His alone is true. The other, a falsehood that distorts His Word.
Have peace, my friend. Come on over to the light of traditional Christianity. Are you aware of the definitions of Saint and saint?
Catholicism is not a falsehood.
Why do you say that?
Christ founded the Catholic Church on the apostles, the first Bishops on Easter morning after he rose from the dead.
A saint is one who will spend eternity with God based upon His Judgement. A Saint is one that in the learned opinion of the Church has gotten to heaven based upon certain criteria. This is the Church, and not opinions of individuals.
Neat. :)
Oops
PROOF
The definition is false. That is what I wrote.
“A saint is one who will spend eternity with God based upon His Judgement. A Saint is one that in the learned opinion of the Church has gotten to heaven based upon certain criteria. This is the Church, and not opinions of individuals.”
God addresses *all* believers as saints while they are still alive on earth as well as those believers who are in glory. He has no other definition and no other criteria.
The only way to get around the FACT that ALL believers in the Body of Christ ARE saints is to just ignore or throw out all of the Holy Spirit's work in Paul's writings. Just pretend they don't exist. Which brings up another BIGGER problem: "Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in ME FIRST Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, FOR A PATTERN TO THEM WHICH SHOULD HEREAFTER BELIEVE on him to life everlasting." 1 Tim. 1:16.
Paul, through the Holy Spirt, by direct revelation from the risen Christ states plainly and directly that HE is the pattern to follow, as he follows Christ through direct revelations from Him. Following Peter will do no good in this dispensation of grace. Following the traditions of men will get you nowhere. Except deeper and deeper into darkness and another gospel and another Jesus and another spirit. Thinking themselves wise, they become fools.
Want a Kingdom gospel, given to Israel, for their purpose of being a nation of priests when Christ returns and sets up His Millenial Kingdom? Follow Peter and commend men on their "miracles" for "sainthood". Wait and watch for Christ to return to Rome to shake hands with the Pope and the "faithful" who have worked so hard so establish His Kingdom for Him. But, whatever you do, stay away from any mention of Paul in Acts, or his writings. It will only confuse you with grace and the cross and Christ's finished work, and the reason Christ called Paul, saved him and sent him forth for a pattern to those who would hereafter believe. Hereafter believe what? 1 Tim. 1:15. THE GOSPEL of the grace of God. Not the Kingdom gospel. Another time. Another group of people.
Those who claim to quote “God” on Internet, are really only quoting their “inerrant” themselves. Every man his own pope, right?
This is a perfect example a doctrine of the reformation being based on an incorrect translation. Nothing in the letters of St. Paul negates the primacy of the Bishop of Rome, St. Peter. If you check any of the more recent and accurate translations you will see that St. Paul did not say that he was THE pattern, he said he was AN example.
Peace be with you
As far as the "primacy of St. Peter" being "negated in the letters of St. Paul": have you read Galatians 2:7-11 lately?...
Unless you are of the belief that Jesus and the Apostles spoke and wrote in King James English you have to recognize that the KJV translations of the original Greek texts are highly flawed.
Peace be with you
One does not really become a saint until you are home with God.
I remmeber seeing that picture on the left online sometime back.
By Catholic doctors, hahaha...Have it validated by a couple of Baptist or secular doctors and then present the evidence...
Old Testament saints are angels...No people...New Testament saints are Christians, living and dead...And they/we are Holy...
Instead of corrupting the scriptures, it would have been far less annoying had the Catholic religion invented a new word for their special people supposedly in heaven instead of perverting the bible word already in use in the scriptures...
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