Posted on 04/22/2013 3:54:49 PM PDT by markomalley
"A saint now!" The canonisation of Wojtyla is getting closer quickly and it could be celebrated next October. In fact, in the past few days, the medical council of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints has recognized as inexplicable one healing attributed to the blessed John Paul II. A supposed "miracle" that, if it is also approved by theologians and the cardinals (as it is very likely), will bring the Polish Pope, who died in 2005, the halo of sainthood in record time, just eight years after his death.
It all happened in great secrecy, with maximum confidentiality. In January, the postulator of the cause, Mgr. Slawomir Oder, submitted a presumed miraculous healing to the Vatican Congregation for the Saints for a preliminary opinion. As it is known, after the approval of a miracle for the proclamation of a blessed, the canonical procedures include the recognition of a second miracle that must have occurred after the beatification ceremony.
Two doctors of the Vatican council had previously examined this new case, and both gave a favourable opinion. The dossier with the medical records and the testimonies was then officially presented to the Congregation, which immediately included the examination in its agenda. In the past few days it was discussed by a committee of seven doctors, the council (presided over by Dr. Patrick Polisca, Pope John Paul II's cardiologist), Pope Benedict XVI's personal physicians and now Pope Francis's. The medical council also gave a favourable opinion, the first official go-ahead by the Vatican, by defining as inexplicable the healing attributed to the intercession of the blessed Karol Wojtyla.
This is the overcoming of the first fundamental hurdle, given that the alleged miracle must now be approved by theologians and then by the cardinals and bishops of the Congregation, before being subjected to the Pope for the definitive "yes". In any case, the approval of the council is considered the most important step; in fact, neither the theologians nor the cardinals are involved in the clinical evaluations concerning the case.
From the steps taken, the desire of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints to work quickly is evident, as it had already happened for the beatification of Pope John Paul II, celebrated by his successor Benedict XVI the 1st of May, 2011. This fast lane that continues to be open for Wojtyla indicates that even Pope Francis is in favour of the canonisation of the Polish Pope.
It is still premature to talk about dates for the canonization, but the rapidity with which the examination of the miracle process is happening still leaves open the possibility of celebrating it on Sunday October 20th, very close to the liturgical holiday assigned to the blessed Wojtyla, which is on October 22nd.
Good post...
Of course you are wrong again...We have the right translation...But it really doesn't matter since you missed the rest of the evidence which is the Ace in the hole...
1Ti 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first (not Peter) Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
Peter was there long before Paul but Paul was chosen to be the first example, or pattern as to what a Christian is to be, how to live, how to worship...NOT poor ole Peter...
Paul clearly had the primacy...If I was a Catholic, by reading the scriptures, I'd know that Paul was the first pope...But since I'm not a Catholic but a Bible Believing Christian, I know better than to fall for any of that man-made foolishness...
Nope...They wrote and spoke in King James Greek...
Most of what the earliest fathers wrote is in line with the Greek that was used in the KJV, not that other version written by Origen, or more probably Eusebius...
Exactly...And we ARE home with God...
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Here are just a few of the examples that are available in the scriptures...
Act 9:13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
Act 9:32 And it came to pass, as Peter passed throughout all quarters, he came down also to the saints which dwelt at Lydda.
Act 26:10 Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them.
Rom 12:13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.
Rom 15:25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints.
I hope you now realize that your understanding of 'saints' is in error...Saints are live, breathing Christians...
St. Paul's role in bringing us the revealed Word does not need embellishment. The primacy of the Bishop of Rome and the Papacy of St. Peter is settled. I do not need to debate it.
In 1 Timothy 1:15 St. Paul identifies himself as the worst sinner (first among sinners) as the premise for referring to himself as the recipient of the greatest mercy as an example to the world in 1 Timothy 1:16.
Peace be with you
Was the message preached by Peter and the 11 based on Israel's ACCEPTANCE of Christ as Messiah, or their REJECTION of Christ as Messiah? Why was Matthias chosen as the 12th Apostle? And WHY was it necessary that a replacement for Judas be chosen before Pentecost? Did Paul consider his apostleship as separate and distinct from the 12, or one with the 12? Did Christ consider Paul's apostleship as separate and distince from the 12, or one with the 12?
Unless you are making a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor there is no King James Greek. You are relying too heavily on the force fit in Strong's Concordance in which the Greek definitions were arrived at using the King James English as the basis for understanding. Legitimate translations begin with the Greek, not the KJV.
Peace be with you
St. Paul's message was based on the emergence of a New Israel, the Catholic Church.
Peace be with you
I meant home with God in HEAVEN or the next life.
This life is a pilgrimage, on the way home to God in HEAVEN which best sums it up.
Mark, this is the nonsense from which I hoped to extract you. That has not happened as yet, I see. The definitions provided by the RCC are self-proving, self-aggrandizing errors of monumental proportions. Let them go and come into the light of Jesus, alone...if He permits.
Well, then Paul was writing to a group of dead people who returned to earth to live in Philippi...
"Paul and Timothy, bond-servants of Christ Jesus, to all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, including the overseers and deacons..."Phil. 1:1
Please reconsider the errant theology you are being fed by Rome. The Bible does not support most of its doctrinal positions.
hmmmm, I see...Who was Peter's message at Pentecost being preached to?
"Go into all the world and proclaim the good news to the whole creation." - Matthew 16:15
Peace be with you
WHO was Peter preaching these words to? That was the question.
The Scripture tells us who was among the crowd, but does not say who the rest of the crowd was or was not. Are you implying that St. Peter's commission was limited to the first people he met? Whom did an angel direct Cornelius to seek out, St. Paul or St. Peter?
Neither St. Paul nor St. Peter were the first or the only to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles, it was disciples from Cyprus and Cyrene who were scattered because of the persecution that took place over Stephen.
Peace be with you
Natural, I BEG you to read Acts Chapter 10 honestly. Without Rome's "interpretation" and traditions. Just read what God's Word SAYS about Cornelius, and Peter. Peter did NOT skip happily to Cornelius' house to spread the gospel to a gentile. He DOUBTED in himself what he saw, he had to HEAR 3 TIMES what Christ had to say to him about killing and eating what was considered unclean, and he informed Cornelius that it was UNLAWFUL for a Jew to keep company with one of another nation (v. 28). In the name of all that is truthful and easily understood, read it. There is a reason Peter doubted his mission to go to Cornelius.
One more time, I ask you...why Paul, if Peter and the 11 understood they were to take "the gospel" to all nations. What need would there be for Christ to save Paul and give him another commission, different from the 12?
BTW, as an aside, do you know who was saved and given his commission by the risen Christ BEFORE Peter went to Cornelius, a gentile? That would be Paul. That is an important thing to know in the timeline of God's plan.
I have read Acts honestly, without the filters and agenda of the Reformation or the Church of Christ denomination (who deny they are even a denomination). It says what it says.
To stick to the topic of the thread, St. Paul did not work miracles, but St. Peter healed in Christ's name.
Peace be with you.
It truly does say what it says. God has yet to open your eyes to the truth of His Word. There is so much to learn, yet it cannot be learned if one does not have spiritual eyes to see. I don't know what else to say to you, other than I pray that God willing, something catches your attention and you begin to understand His plan for mankind. He has given to us the most beautiful possessions He has. His Son, His blood, His reaching out to His enemies with reconciliation based on His Son's finished work on our behalf. And His Word, to study and become strong in this present evil world, being ambassadors for Him. Every spiritual blessing is given by Him to us. Rome has no clue as to His plans, His desires for us, or His calling for us. I am so sorry that so many are given so much and still refuse to be reconciled to Him.
I appreciate your prayers and have no doubt as to the sincerity of your thoughts and beliefs, but my eyes are wide open and I am already fully reconciled to Jesus.
Peace be with you
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