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To: A_perfect_lady; wastedyears
In other words [...]

You may use all the 'other words' you like, but do not attribute them to me - Your atheism seems to have affected your translating ability.

[...] if wastedyears isn't feeling peace and joy right now, he has failed to seek God with an open enough heart. That's all you Christians on here are really saying to him.

If you had any idea how precious an 'open heart' is, and how hard it is to achieve, I doubt you would treat it so blithely. Being in a state where it is not achieved is not an accusation as much as it is a symptom.

God is peace, but you have to do it right.

Well of course you have to 'do it right' to some degree. YHWH doesn't answer the phones at Baal's office (as an instance)... But YHWH will meet you where you are in a general sense.

You have to pray hard enough, believe deeply enough, abandon self, trust, believe, beg... If you aren't feeling the peace, you're doing it wrong, see?

No, I don't see.

So you're doubling the blame for his misery back onto him. That's 100 times more destructive than anything I'm saying to him. Poisonous, actually.

I am not blaming him in the least. What is poisonous is bitterness, hate, self pity and anger - All of which are symptomatic and expected when one is in duress. And all of which tend to short-wire the transmission to God. The radio has to be working in order to transmit. It is really, really hard to trust God in such circumstances - And all to easy to trust one's self or rely upon doctors. But YHWH is the one who holds your blueprint... When the doctors put you into maintenance mode, healing will be found there no longer. So hope resides in God alone (which was the only hope all along anyway).

And the most poisonous of all is telling him to crawl into a bitter pity-party and continue to rely on what hasn't worked: YOU'RE DOOOOMED! Live with it! Don't listen to these hayseed pasty-faced Christians (who actually DO get healing). Don't listen for a minute to how they got that way!

If there was ever a thought directly from satan's lips, it would be that.

317 posted on 05/19/2013 10:31:39 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Christianity is hard for unbelievers to swallow. That’s not news... anyhow looks like our RM decided that the jag of unbelief (I was trying to present truth in love, but only got question begging and quibbles) had gone far enough for the Lady. I wish the Lady the best, but she needs her spiritual eyes opened before she can accept it. She, like me at one point except even worse, is tied to the present world as with boat chains and belittles the rest of us for not sharing that earth tied view.


320 posted on 05/19/2013 10:59:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: roamer_1

If one is sincere, one can beg the Lord to conquer one’s closed heart. He will follow through, often with astonishing grace.


321 posted on 05/19/2013 11:03:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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