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Why "me" worship is killing the church.
1 posted on 08/12/2013 5:32:45 PM PDT by luvie
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2 posted on 08/12/2013 5:34:52 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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Jesus took our Sins. The legalist can’t control you if that gets out


3 posted on 08/12/2013 5:35:46 PM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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I have never understood Churches that try to play off Pop culture.

There was a Church here that at one time was doing WWF smack down for Christ.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 5:44:15 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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There is a lot of truth in that article.

I think the problem can be boiled down to trying to reach people where they are, when in fact the whole point is to worship God. It’s as if people think that The Son of God is not attractive enough to people so they have to entertain them.

If we focus on our relationship with Jesus, as individuals and as a Christian community, and let Him show forth in our lives, the pews will be full (which they are, by the way, in Arizona).


9 posted on 08/12/2013 5:51:55 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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11 posted on 08/12/2013 5:57:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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The Church is the body of born-again believers around the world, not the individual church building or denomination - the Bible says that nothing will prevail against it. The little-c church will fall when it no longer follows Biblical principles, but the Body of Christ will overcome.


12 posted on 08/12/2013 5:58:02 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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Your church. Does it look like this?

Nope, the last one I dropped in to just had a 5 piece band and a video screen high and to their right.......

The Baptist church I attended before that didn't even have a standing crucifix.........When I asked my friend about that, he of course had a prepared church statement why they didn't.

And Pastor Bob gave me the creeps.......

I'm still looking..........

13 posted on 08/12/2013 6:00:22 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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I’m done with churches with segregated services - traditional and “contemporary.” It is a travesty of the highest order.


16 posted on 08/12/2013 6:03:16 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Many churches are just club houses....................


19 posted on 08/12/2013 6:03:58 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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Supercool rock band church.


26 posted on 08/12/2013 6:18:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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27 posted on 08/12/2013 6:23:46 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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28 posted on 08/12/2013 6:25:28 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Slightly off topic but how much is “ too much Tylenol “ ?? Enough to cause liver failure?

I’ve never heard of such a thing.


30 posted on 08/12/2013 6:30:29 PM PDT by warsaw44
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I’ve mentioned it before here on FR on various threads, but my brother attends a mega church here in Illinois called Willow Creek. They are not allowed to mention the word “sin” as it may turn off their patrons “ie costumers” , they are all “pro choice”, the church is closed on Christmas, and they’ve had Bill Clinton out there several times as a guest speaker (and Dick Durban as well). This church is MASSIVE. The cops have to direct traffic on Sundays. I mean MASSIVE as in more parking then the Allstate Arena or Soldier Field, and the lot is full on Sundays.

They get bands there, entertainment, etc, but don’t mention the word “sin”.


32 posted on 08/12/2013 6:35:05 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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Jesus Christ and His being crucified for our sins are no longer taught in churches. Feel good about yourself is. I know one church who teaches teen-age girls how to cook.


36 posted on 08/12/2013 6:40:32 PM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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All that stuff about crucification, is, like, gross, man, we want something amazing, incredible and unbelievable, like Justin, what his name!


37 posted on 08/12/2013 6:45:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Stop me if you’ve heard this one:

A rabbi, a mufti and a Scientologist walk into a church...


41 posted on 08/12/2013 6:47:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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The charismatics have infiltrated our church and have taken control of the music every other week. I don’t go to church to be ool; therefore, I don’t need Guitar Zhero from the choir loft. I hope our new bishop stifles them.


53 posted on 08/12/2013 7:27:41 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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Self-esteem is what 2013 considers spiritual feeding.


61 posted on 08/12/2013 7:56:02 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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Quite an article, though of course not a popular idea in today’s ‘McChurch’.

Once you get past the too-loud guitars, ‘worship team’ members dressed in cutoff shorts and flip-flops leading worship and marketing exercises disguised as worship, you get a good look at some of today’s churches.

My church, which is considered fairly conservative, would do anything to attract a college student including running roughshod over the standards and values of worship of existing longtime members. A lot of times the people the service is designed to attract wind up leaving anyway.


63 posted on 08/12/2013 8:20:17 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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