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Catholic Apologetics Online ^ | 1940 | Fathers Rumble & Carty

Posted on 10/30/2013 9:24:15 AM PDT by GonzoII

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To: tired&retired

No offence taken and happy to have you on the ping list.

Believe it or not I don’t consider myself one who argues really. I try and toss out there what I hold to be true
and hope that it sticks—with God’s help.


21 posted on 10/31/2013 9:17:06 AM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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To: editor-surveyor
"He didn’t write, he spoke, and when he spoke it was always a recital of the scriptures."

No doubt He quoted the Scriptures (the Old Testament) because He was their fulfillment. But what are we to do with the New Testament? Where did He say they were to be the sole rule of Faith along with the Old Testament?

22 posted on 10/31/2013 9:30:02 AM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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To: GonzoII

Yeshua never told us to follow anything but Torah.

There was no “new testament” when he was alive.

To the extent that any NT writing is compliant with what is set out in Torah, (and all that I have read are) we should follow them.


23 posted on 10/31/2013 10:53:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: hopespringseternal; ClancyJ; Lucas McCain; PFKEY; asformeandformyhouse; Colonel Kangaroo; ...

The almost-never-used church of Christ Ping List...


24 posted on 11/02/2013 12:18:13 PM PDT by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: GonzoII

You’ll want to get me off of your ping list as soon as possible.


25 posted on 11/02/2013 1:39:04 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Oops. Would YOU please take me off of your ping list at your earliest convenience.


26 posted on 11/02/2013 1:40:25 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: GonzoII

Tremendous amount of misinformation on here.

It’s one thing to twist facts to make a political point. Best to approach the Almighty with a bit more humility.


27 posted on 11/02/2013 7:15:10 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: editor-surveyor; redleghunter
The Disciples of Christ was a break-away from the Baptists.

Wrong! The Disciples of Christ (Christian Church) is a denomination which was formed out of the Restoration Movement in the Sixties. Those Christian Churches, which did not join the denomination are known as the Independent Christian Churches.

There is considerable misinformation about the churches of Christ in the above article and comments. I will attempt to address them tomorrow. Grace and peace, G B

28 posted on 11/02/2013 11:44:31 PM PDT by GarySpFc (We are saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ, the God-man)
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To: GarySpFc

Ah, I see the Roman Catholic mafia finally got around to your denomination. Earlier today they posted against the Lutherans. Luther seems to be their favorite straw man. That is what these Catholic Answers articles are all about...creating straw man arguments for cut and paste ease for the Biblically illiterate. I await your most informed response most eagerly DR. Gary.


29 posted on 11/03/2013 12:05:25 AM PDT by redleghunter
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To: editor-surveyor; redleghunter
The Disciples of Christ was a break-away from the Baptists.

Wrong! The Disciples of Christ (Christian Church) is a denomination which was formed out of the Restoration Movement in the Sixties. Those Christian Churches, which did not join the denomination are known as the Independent Christian Churches.

There is considerable misinformation about the churches of Christ in the above article and comments. I will attempt to address them tomorrow. Grace and peace, G B

30 posted on 11/03/2013 3:36:59 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ, the God-man)
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To: GarySpFc

>> “Wrong! The Disciples of Christ (Christian Church) is a denomination which was formed out of the Restoration Movement in the Sixties.” <<

No chance!

My wife’s Grandfather was a DOC minister before WW II.


31 posted on 11/03/2013 10:58:47 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: redleghunter

>> “That is what these Catholic Answers articles are all about...creating straw man arguments for cut and paste ease for the Biblically illiterate.” <<

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Well said.


32 posted on 11/03/2013 11:00:28 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
No chance!

My wife’s Grandfather was a DOC minister before WW II.

Up until the Sixties the Restoration Movement consisted of the Disciples of Christ and the churches of Christ. Both groups were composed of independent churches. The liberal branches of the DoC broke off from the conservative branch in the Sixties, and formed the DoC Denomination, with the conservatives now labeled the independent Christian Churches. I am ordained in the latter, but have my membership in the church of Christ.

33 posted on 11/03/2013 8:43:33 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ, the God-man)
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To: GarySpFc

Liberal is an understatement!

They are out and out Marxists to the core. They make the Unitarians look conservative.


34 posted on 11/03/2013 8:52:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
They are out and out Marxists to the core. They make the Unitarians look conservative.

I am not a member of the DoC, but I am very familiar with the denomination. To equate them with either Marxists or Unitarians is simply not true.

35 posted on 11/08/2013 4:04:12 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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No. Christ described His Church in very many significant ways—all of which apply to the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church only.

On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet, 11 which said: “Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”

NIV. (Re 1:10–11). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan.

Is the true church the Catholic Church, Baptist, or churches of Christ? Which of the seven churches listed above did Christ claim as His own? Clearly being the oldest wasn't listed as one of the attributes He desires. The Lord is looking for those who love Him, and humbly worship Him in spirit and truth.

36 posted on 11/08/2013 4:23:38 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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37 posted on 11/08/2013 4:26:33 AM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: GarySpFc
"Which of the seven churches listed above did Christ claim as His own?

All of them. They were all local churches, just as we have today the Diocese of Fresno or the church at Fresno or the Diocese of Los Angeles or the church at Los Angeles that belong to His Church. And they are all Catholic.

"Clearly being the oldest wasn't listed as one of the attributes He desires."

It's a matter of being the right one and that is the one that has the pedigree going right back to the first century.

When did your church start?

If it wasn't in the first century then it can't possibly the one established by Christ.

38 posted on 11/08/2013 5:36:03 AM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: editor-surveyor
His preface to all doctrinal statements is “It is written.”

And followed it up with (or some variation of) "But I say unto you...." at least 5 times.

39 posted on 11/08/2013 5:57:54 AM PST by verga (We used to be the land of the free. Now weÂ’re just the land of the freebie.)
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To: GonzoII
It's a matter of being the right one and that is the one that has the pedigree going right back to the first century.
When did your church start?
If it wasn't in the first century then it can't possibly the one established by Christ.

Oh, so the Lord picks out a church, and the members can live without faith. Maybe some of your churches are the ones at Ephesus, and Christ has removed His lampstand. Rev. 2:5

Are you a member of the church at Pergamum, and have members holding to the teaching of Baalam? Likewise, do any of your members hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans? God looks at the heart and not if someone is a great-g-g-g-grandson of someone who had faith. It's the faith He sees now, not what your ancestors did for Him.

40 posted on 11/08/2013 11:43:49 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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