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To: dangus

http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2006/06/guest-blogdid-jerome-change-his-mind.html

http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2008/02/semi-authoritative-catholic-canon.html


6 posted on 10/30/2013 2:24:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Mr Rogers

Thanks for making my point about the intellectual dishonesty of Protestant apologists. Even in discussions about Jerome apparently changing his mind about the canon, there is no mention of the prefaces to Judith and to Tobit. None! How is that possible?

Also, you add another half history in the second post. It is true that the Council deferred over the objections of Cardinal Cajetan on the doctrinal authoritativeness of the deuterocanonical books. But they deferred for reasons your source does not present, and, in fact, misleads on.

The final verdict of the Council of Trent found Seven books were absolutely required for doctrine, and anathematized anyone who found otherwise. The tricky cases were those of the third Book of Maccabees, and the Greek Book of Esdras. These books had NOT been consistently regarded as scriptural throughout history, but many Christian communities, including among the Orthodox and Oriental churches, did include them in their bibles. The Council concluded that the third Book of Maccabees, although read in some masses by some Christian communities, was not used historically to establish any doctrine; while the Council declined to denounce their ecclesiastical use, it found no reason to include it in their list of books which all Christians were obliged to defend as scriptural. Similarly, Greek Esdras, being little other than a condensation of Esra and Nehemiah into a single work, was found to be in no way objectionable, but not necessary.

(Some people also mistakenly believe that there was controversy over a “Letter of Jeremiah,” since this is found in Protestant bibles which include the “apocrypha.” In fact, Catholics regard the Letter of Jeremiah as part of the Book of Baruch, and did include it in their bibles; some Oriental and Orthodox churches treat it as a separate work, since the Letter is about Baruch, not by him.)


10 posted on 10/30/2013 2:43:31 PM PDT by dangus
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