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“Christians Did Disagree about the Canonicity of Some NT Books” (9/10)
Canon Fodder ^ | June 26, 2013 | Michael J. Kruger

Posted on 11/30/2013 9:41:51 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: Petrosius
"The Bible is not a systematic theological tract. Even Protestants augment it with their own commentaries and catechisms. "

It most certainly is, it just isn't organized systematically. All my systematic theology comes straight from the bible. And Protestants don't give commentaries and catechisms the weight of scripture - they are merely teaching aids. Thus, they don't and aren't intended to "augment" scripture, merely explain it to the uninitiated.

"You cannot separate the church's authentication of the canon of Scripture from its Catholic practices and teachings."

Even if the "church" had "authenticated" the canon of scripture (it didn't, the Holy Spirit did) the two things you mention can easily be separated.

41 posted on 12/02/2013 3:43:40 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
It most certainly is, it just isn't organized systematically.

A = not A?

All my systematic theology comes straight from the bible.

No, your theology come from a Protestant understanding of the Bible. Do we really have to list all the scriptural passages where Catholics and Protestants disagree with their meaning? Catholics hold the Bible in no less reverence than Protestants. We sincerely believe that our understanding of it is correct and leads to Catholic teachings. If you were to study Catholic theology you would find that it is constantly referencing the Bible.

42 posted on 12/02/2013 3:55:52 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
"If you were to study Catholic theology you would find that it is constantly referencing the Bible."

I would also find it referencing precepts that are not in the bible and that it just made up to enhance and consolidate its power and control. The entire Catholic church (or any church for that matter) has no more presence, authority or power before God than the lowliest saved Christian.

43 posted on 12/02/2013 4:04:44 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity; Petrosius
It most certainly is, it just isn't organized systematically. All my systematic theology comes straight from the bible. And Protestants don't give commentaries and catechisms the weight of scripture - they are merely teaching aids. Thus, they don't and aren't intended to "augment" scripture, merely explain it to the uninitiated.

Could you please answer the following question(s) using only the Bible, and cite chapter and verse. We are getting close to being able to clone human beings.

When that happens will the clone have a soul? If it does have a soul will it be the same soul as the original person, or a different one?

If it is the same soul as the original and one of them (clone or original dies) what happens to that soul?

If it is a different one where did that soul come from?

44 posted on 12/02/2013 5:59:11 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Uh, troll.


45 posted on 12/03/2013 1:31:34 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: verga
"We are getting close to being able to clone human beings."

Really? Show me one and then I'll answer your questions.

46 posted on 12/03/2013 4:25:53 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salvavida

Witty response there newbie.


47 posted on 12/03/2013 5:07:28 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: circlecity
Really? Show me one and then I'll answer your questions.

I fully expected this answer, so let me reword it for you. All animals have souls. Was Dolly the sheep soul the same as the original. Etc....

48 posted on 12/03/2013 5:19:00 AM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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"All animals have souls."

How did you come to that conclusion?

49 posted on 12/03/2013 8:26:58 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
How did you come to that conclusion?

By reading the Bible. Start with Genesis 1:1

50 posted on 12/03/2013 1:07:03 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: verga

Just so everyone is clear this is your way of saying that you can’t get ALL of systematic theology form the Bible alone, is that correct?


51 posted on 12/03/2013 1:07:57 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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"By reading the Bible. Start with Genesis 1:1"

please point out to me where Gen 1.1 says anthing about animals having or not having souls. Then define for me what you mean by "souls" and how that differs from "Spirit." In any event, Gen 1.26 makes it clear that man has something that sets them apart from animals. Whether you call that a "soul", "spirit" or whatever, it is something that cloned sheep don't have.

52 posted on 12/03/2013 1:29:07 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

See reply 51.


53 posted on 12/03/2013 1:30:45 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: verga

It doesn’t speak to the issue at all.


54 posted on 12/03/2013 2:14:19 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
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55 posted on 12/03/2013 4:48:58 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: verga

You betcha.


56 posted on 12/03/2013 5:56:41 PM PST by circlecity
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