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The Veiled Doctrine of the Pre-Trib Rapture
Raptureready.com ^ | 2-3-14 | Dan Payne

Posted on 02/07/2014 6:11:36 AM PST by CynicalBear

As a thief veils his presence from those he wishes to steal from, so the Lord has veiled the doctrine of the Pre-Tribulation coming for His church. That may be construed by some as a loaded statement, for sure.

Of course, those who have put forth great effort in the study of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture doctrine may dispute its veiling. Indeed, for those who search out truth through the effort of study, and humble reliance upon the Holy Spirit, truth is unveiled.

It is of no mystery to the children of God that He requires us to study His Word.

“Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15).

It should also be of no mystery to God's children that He wants them to understand His doctrines.

“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you” (John 14:26).

God wants our spiritual fellowship with Him through the study of His Word. He stimulates and motivates us to study His Word, by veiling certain doctrines within His Word, so that in depth study is required to search them out for spiritual understanding.

However, those who are not His children are blinded to His doctrines.

“But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them” (2 Corinthians 4:3-4).

If those who do not believe can be so blinded to the first, elementary doctrine of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, just imagine how blind some can be to a deeper doctrine such as that of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the church.

It’s very simple, if you refuse to believe in the truth, you will become blinded to it.

Of course there are many honest, born-again believers in Christ do not agree with the Pre-Trib doctrine. Those believers are not seeking to devour those of us who do. I have to seriously question the motivation of those who focus the majority of their “work for the Lord” in vitriolic attacks launched against the hearts of those who hold to the Pre-Trib Rapture doctrine. Such attacks are an attribute of Satan, not of Christ.

I believe that the Lord hid or veiled the doctrine of the Pre-Trib Rapture from the eyes of the wolves to protect His sheep from their hunger. If Satan knew exactly when the "Thief" would come to snatch away His sheep, he may very likely launch a mass extermination operation to kill them off before their Shepherd could come to rescue them.

Of course, we know that Satan will launch just such an operation of extermination against all who refuse to worship him, during the second half of the Tribulation (Revelation 13:7-8).

Jesus referred to His own coming for His sheep as when a thief comes at an unexpected hour.

“Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect” (Matthew 24:42-44).

The Shepherd will turn the tables on the wolf; He will come at an unexpected hour to snatch all of His sheep away from danger.

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up” (2 Peter 3:10).

The following is a quote from an earlier article written by me about the Day of the Lord, with the addition of some editing:

The Day of the Lord arrives as a thief in the night but it does not end as a thief in the night. The “day” is more than just a 24-hour period of time. It is not the same amount of time as “the evening and the morning” referred to in the creation chronicle in the book of Genesis. A lot takes place during the “day” of the Lord.

“But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day” (2 Peter 3:8).

When heaven is opened in Revelation 19:11, everyone on earth will see Jesus. His return at the end of the Tribulation will not come as a thief in the night. The “day of the Lord” will begin as a thief in the night but it will not end as a thief in the night.

“Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes were like a flame of fire” (Revelation 19:11).

“All of the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” (Matthew 24:30).

The entire process of Christ’s coming at the end of the Tribulation will be very obvious to the world, unlike the process of a thief who does not want to announce his presence to those he wants to steal from. When Christ comes as a thief (before the Tribulation), He will only trumpet His Presence to His bride that He is “stealing” from the world. While Christ’s bride is caught up, the rest of the world will be caught-off-guard.

To believe in the doctrine of the Pre-Trib Rapture is to embrace the hope of its truth. And if there is one thing that Satan and his minions cannot stand, it is hope in Jesus. They engage in great effort to deceive us into believing that our hope is dangerous to ourselves. The Bible clearly teaches that only those who do not receive the love of the truth will be deceived.

“And with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved” (2 Thessalonians 2:10).

Our hope is of no danger to us; it is only dangerous to those who hate the truth. It shakes their faith, it rattles their nerves. They are in danger when our faith is strong.

The danger is to the arrogance of their egos. They have to be right to stay propped up on the pedestal of their pride. We have to be right in order to properly instruct our hearts and to comfort the hearts of our fellow believers. We have to stay motivated to go about the Lord’s work until He returns. We have to continue to love God, and to teach and to love one another in His name.

The hatred of hope in Christ was no doubt the motivation behind the false teachings that led the church at Thessalonica to be so greatly troubled in their collective spirit.

The same attacks are being launched within the church today, with back-breaking strength. Satan and his children cannot stand your comfort in Christ. Don’t let their arrows pierce your armor of hope. Take up your shield of faith.

“Above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one” (Ephesians 6:16).

After all, when we look at the near complete depravity of the world around us, what else can we hope for but the return of Jesus? There certainly isn’t any hope for the repentance of this world as a whole. The only hope that remains is for the repentance of a few, and for our escape.

If and when any of us as individuals, or all of us collectively, will or will not escape this tortuous place is up to God the Father only.

“Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words” (1 Thessalonians 4:17-18).

I know not when my Lord may come, at night or noonday fair, nor if I’ll walk the vale with him, or meet him in the air. But I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day. “I know not why God’s wondrous grace.”


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: dispensations; endtimes; eschatology; freneau; pretribrapture; rapture
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1 posted on 02/07/2014 6:11:36 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

2 posted on 02/07/2014 6:18:03 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: CynicalBear

The best academic pre-trib resource:

http://www.pre-trib.org/

- The Pre-trib Research Center

Next time anyone tells you the PreTrib concept was a “Jesuit” invention, go there


3 posted on 02/07/2014 6:18:37 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: CynicalBear
Scoffers arriving in 3..2..1

By "scoffers", of course, you mean "anyone who dares to disagree with me."

It’s very simple, if you refuse to believe in the truth, you will become blinded to it.

And there is the core of the argument: the author is, in his mind, the infallible interpreter of Scripture.

If you disagree with him, you are not really disagreeing with a mere mortal - you are actually "refus[ing] to believe in the truth" itself.

If you do not see things the author's way, you are not seeing them differently - you are actually not seeing anything at all - you have "become blinded."

The author's arrogance is breathtaking.

His ignorance is less surprising.

4 posted on 02/07/2014 6:20:36 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

Oh yeah, Bible truth from the church that esteems God’s Word to be about as valuable, powerful and authoritative as a pretty good hymnal.

No thanks.


5 posted on 02/07/2014 6:22:54 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: CynicalBear

According to the scoffers, the modern state of Israel shouldn’t even exist.

All it took for preterism and replacementism to roar back was for a couple of generations to go by before Israel’s existence is no longer “news” anymore.


6 posted on 02/07/2014 6:26:44 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

That is a good site! Lot’s of good material there.


7 posted on 02/07/2014 6:26:46 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: fishtank
Was there a rational argument in that post?

Because there is a thoughtfully argued case in the book CC cited.

8 posted on 02/07/2014 6:26:59 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

So you have no scripture showing where he is in error?


9 posted on 02/07/2014 6:28:01 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

The problem with the writers line of reasoning is very typical of religious writers. He seems to be saying that if you don’t agree with the pre-trib viewpoint then a spiritual problem is evident. I have always wondered why so much emphasis is placed on this issue in some circles. Pre, post, mid, trib. God is not asking for my opinion. Seems much like sports fans who somehow think they can influence the outcome of a game by wearing lucky clothes, or in the case of my daughter, she is convinced that recording her favorite team’s game will result in a loss. God doesn’t need my approval or my correct opinion to act. It is what it is regardless of what i think or don’t think.

I never have understood the amount of hysteria this subject generates. We are logs in a stream carried out to sea by multi millennial events. Why waste ink with sneering self importance when the outcome, whatever it is, is preordained? I don’t get it.


10 posted on 02/07/2014 6:30:29 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: CynicalBear

“As a thief veils his presence from those he wishes to steal from, so the Lord has veiled the doctrine of the Pre-Tribulation coming for His church. That may be construed by some as a loaded statement, for sure.”

Loaded? Sure. Offensive? You bet. The metaphor is bankrupt, with a twinge (or more) of blasphemy. The metaphor compares the Lord to a thief. It takes the breath away. It makes you wonder where the writer is really going with this.


11 posted on 02/07/2014 6:31:59 AM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: CynicalBear

The headline is hilarious. Google search “define trib” to understand why tribulation abbreviated this way takes on a very different meaning.

Let’s put it this way... “Trib” is probably very popular with Ellen Degeneres, Hillary Clinton, and Rosie O’Donnell.

Don’t shoot the messenger.


12 posted on 02/07/2014 6:33:09 AM PST by peyton randolph (Show me the man and I will find the crime. - Lavrenti Beria)
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To: fishtank
>> According to the scoffers, the modern state of Israel shouldn’t even exist.<<

The fact that the nation of Israel even exists today and it’s implication goes right over many peoples heads.

13 posted on 02/07/2014 6:35:54 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: DariusBane

Then I would suppose this article is of no interest to you.


14 posted on 02/07/2014 6:36:49 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: JT Hatter

Scripture did describe His coming as a “thief in the night”.


15 posted on 02/07/2014 6:37:56 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: peyton randolph

And gay doesn’t mean happy or jovial any more. Language does change over time doesn’t it. I suppose working within our sphere of understanding takes on meaning.


16 posted on 02/07/2014 6:40:30 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; All

“If Satan knew exactly when the “Thief” would come to snatch away His sheep, he may very likely launch a mass extermination operation to kill them off before their Shepherd could come to rescue them.”

That would presuppose that God had the inability to react tactically to Satan’s mass extermination attempt. We note that Christ was spirited away before Herod could have him killed in a sweeping slaughter of toddlers two and under. We note that Satan himself must have been somewhat blinded as to Christ’s location or else he would have had him surgically pin pointed and killed without the surrounding carnage.

Satan would have had us all rounded up and exterminated as quickly as he could long ago, whether or not he knew when Christ’s arrival would be. There are barriers that Satan is also forced to run. He would have had the entire race of humans destroyed and our planet reduced to cinders just to prove God couldn’t stand by his promises, there-bye causing the implosion of all creation.

Ah Lord...we can’t help but love you, we are dependent upon you for the very energy our molecular make ups need just to stay together. We love you because you first loved us. What else can we say or do, but lower our eyes in the shame of the shambles that hubris and pride have reduced each of us (and our land) to. Forgive us oh Lord, we ask in in Jesus’ name, have mercy on us, and preserve some portion of our America that righteous folk may yet take a refuge in. Amen.


17 posted on 02/07/2014 6:43:20 AM PST by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help America best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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To: CynicalBear

I came to Christ in a pre-Trib church. I spent years being taught pre-Trib teachings. I believed that pre-Trib was the only answer.

Then I read and heard an atrib preacher go through the same scriptures and make a reasoned argument which made me realize that there room to differ and I will just have to wait and see.


18 posted on 02/07/2014 6:43:25 AM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: CynicalBear

It does interest me. But for reasons that are different from yours. The article perfectly illustrates a circle the wagons mindset. Bearded clerics in dirty robes glancing suspiciously at each other eagerly looking for a heretic amongst their own kind.


19 posted on 02/07/2014 6:45:21 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: dangerdoc

Ditto to your post. In fact pre-trip was a cornerstone doctrine. Now i ask why is this a cornerstone doctrine. An interesting hobby perhaps but a cornerstone doctrine?


20 posted on 02/07/2014 6:51:34 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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