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A Dishonest "Cosmos"
God and the Machine ^ | 03/11/2014 | Thomas L. McDonald

Posted on 03/11/2014 3:23:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480

...We're shown Bruno sneaking around and are told that "He dared to read the books banned by the Church." The book in question was On the Nature of Things by Lucretius, which he keeps hidden under his floorboards....Tyson tells us that this (meaning reading Lucretius) "was his undoing."

That's very interesting, since papal legate and cardinal Nicholas of Cusa had read and commented on Lucretius in the 15th century, formulating ideas that would later be picked up by Bruno, and was widely read and respected.

As the poor Giordano secretly reads his precious book, THE CHURCH! bursts into his room like characters from the "Spanish Inquisition" sketch....I've seen less cliched and absurd depictions of the Church in Jack Chick comics....And with that shot, Cosmos reveals that it's not really meant to be education, but propaganda....We see gentle little Bruno repeating the Copernican theory while scholars clench with rage, as though they'd never heard such a thing! And then these scholars …throw food at Bruno and chase him off. No, really: a 'science' documentary actually went there....When the cartoon finally gets around to showing us the Inquisition's pronouncement of Bruno, we hear–for the first time and from the mouth of a figure depicted in typical Disney Villain Mode...."

"Bruno makes for good propaganda, and continues the Church versus Science lie so dear to the hearts of reactionary atheists....If you want to depict Bruno as a martyr for pantheistic cabalistic hermetic occultism, be my guest. But he was not a martyr for science."

(Excerpt) Read more at patheos.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: atheism; carlsagan; catholic; christian; cosmos; giordanobruno; humanism; neildegrassetyson; nukes; treehugger
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1 posted on 03/11/2014 3:23:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 03/11/2014 3:23:53 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Pyro7480

He didn’t expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 3:29:33 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Pyro7480

Was hoping for a much higher quality production of this new COSMOS series. Really disappointed in the heavy commercials they allowed to stay in the episode, especially when viewed on a paid cable subscription service. We pay dearly for NO commercials. Anyway, hope it gets better. There is so little programming these days for people with IQs over 65. Carl Sagan contributed much to the space program of this country.


4 posted on 03/11/2014 3:34:18 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Pyro7480

I’m sorry, but it really is true, that the same institutions that tried to preserve knowledge during the Dark Ages had a great deal of interest in suppressing modern ideas. However, any “enlightened” person understands that today’s Catholic church is much different than the church of those times. The Vatican has operated a respected observatory for centuries. A catholic priest posited Hubble’s ideas before Hubble did, and developed the first concept of the Big Bang.

But, the church doesn’t need to take any heat for the behavior of people 400 years ago, for the same reasons that I don’t have to take or accept any heat for slavery.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 3:49:01 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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Wasn’t Seth Macfarland the producer? Is anyone surprised its garbage? I refused to watch simply because they moved Bob’s Burgers to 7! That is the true outrage


6 posted on 03/11/2014 3:49:11 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: MUDDOG
He didn’t expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.

Nobody does.

7 posted on 03/11/2014 4:17:30 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: eclecticEel

Still LOL after all these years.


8 posted on 03/11/2014 4:20:45 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: EagleUSA
Carl Sagan contributed much to the space program of this country.

Carl Sagan was a fool, an "educated" fool but a fool nevertheless, believing the junk science of global warming. He was a globalist, peacenik, anti-nuclear nut and a tree-hugger. See this 1989 video to get the full measure of this secular humanist.

9 posted on 03/11/2014 4:21:16 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Pyro7480

Yeah.... the cartoon stuff was seriously gratuitous and, as propaganda goes, really poorly done.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 4:23:29 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Pyro7480

Carl Sagan didn’t need no cartoons. Carl Sagan didn’t need no phony Italian accents. CS did’nt need no Fu Manchu mustaches. CS didn’t need no phony spaceship. No insults to religions. No madeup heroes who contributed nil to science.

I could go on,,,but this series is a sack of siht.

PS. I have a Ph.d in Physics and knew CS in the 70s.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 4:26:40 PM PDT by RossA
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To: escapefromboston

Why is a “science” show on a Sunday night usually reserved for cartoons that teenage boys like?

Get these “young skulls full of mush”, as Rush calls them, as a captive audience. They are young, impressionable, turning away from God, not very bright, arrogant in what little they believe...what better time to put this crap on?


12 posted on 03/11/2014 4:26:42 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: re_nortex

“..Carl Sagan was a fool, an “educated” fool but a fool nevertheless, believing the junk science of global warming.”

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Yes, he was. But, nonetheless a major contributor to space exploration and our programs. Too bad he was a dupe for the liberal crap.


13 posted on 03/11/2014 4:30:01 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Captainpaintball

Well on the plus side I’ve heard that it got bad ratings.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 4:30:44 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: re_nortex

Carl Sagan died of cancer in Seattle. If he didn’t believe in God then, I’ll be he does now.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 4:33:21 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Pyro7480

Turned it on, saw Obama, turned it off.

Better to spend my time looking up at the nighttime sky.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 4:33:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: hoagy62
Carl Sagan died of cancer in Seattle. If he didn’t believe in God then, I’ll be he does now.

If he didn't sincerely repent and get his Salvation through Christ, he's now chatting up the likes of Frances Perkins and Franklin Roosevelt through all of eternity. And most assuredly Ted Kennedy, too.

17 posted on 03/11/2014 4:36:16 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: The Antiyuppie
I’m sorry, but it really is true, that the same institutions that tried to preserve knowledge during the Dark Ages had a great deal of interest in suppressing modern ideas.

Care to expand on this? What modern ideas?

Also, the "Dark Ages" is a secularist propaganda term no serious historian uses.
18 posted on 03/11/2014 4:37:12 PM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: RossA

About midway thru the cartoon, I remember turning to my husband and saying “Sagan was an atheist, but I don’t remember him stooping to this kind of nonsense.” I’ll watch the second installment and then decide if I want to continue. I’d give Part One maybe 2.5 out of 5 stars. (no pun intended!)


19 posted on 03/11/2014 4:39:11 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: RossA
He did have a phony space ship, right? I don't think they had a depiction of it other than the "bridge" with his viewscreen.

Well, he did call it "the ship of imagination"

20 posted on 03/11/2014 4:50:42 PM PDT by dr_lew
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