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To: livius

So, in other words, there were no Catholic Apologetic after Vatican II that supported sodomy or other sexual sin. Would that be accurate?

Have there been heretical groups, like Dignity? Sure. However, correlation doesn’t equal causation.

Ask yourself daily whether you exercise the virtue of Faith.

As a refresher “ 1814 Faith is the theological virtue by which we believe in God and believe all that he has said and revealed to us, and that Holy Church proposes for our belief, because he is truth itself. By faith “man freely commits his entire self to God.”78 For this reason the believer seeks to know and do God’s will. “The righteous shall live by faith.” Living faith “work[s] through charity.”79


29 posted on 04/08/2014 4:28:47 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo

Please, I didn’t say it was official Catholic apologetics. I said “gay apologetics.”

That was in the form of distorted teachings from Catholic sources. There actually was virtually no official teaching from the Church after Vatican II, because the imprimatur became unnecessary and every flake in the universe was free to publish his (or her, very often) flaky ruminations as authentic Catholic teaching. Look at the Dominican Matthew Fox and his teachings on “gaia” and homosexuality and a host of other things; look at all the loony nuns and their “teachings,” some of which appear in Catholic textbooks.

Why do you think the Vatican, under the more orthodox leadership of Benedict XVI, had to do all of the investigations and even condemnations that led to such hatred against BXVI that he had to resign?

I’m not saying JPII wasn’t orthodox personally; he simply was pretty neglectful of what was going on and being taught in the rest of the Church. And he picked up from the weak and overwhelmed Paul VI, whose one moment of heroism was Humanae Vitae but who simply couldn’t do anything more after that except weep.

Ask yourself daily whether you read and stay in touch enough and are knowledgeable enough to fight against threats to the Faith.


30 posted on 04/08/2014 5:44:55 PM PDT by livius
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