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To: Linda Frances

we must acknowledge our sins, repent and believe and accept Jesus death on the cross as payment for our sins, turn from our sins and we will be saved. We are saved by grace and not works.

...repenting from sin and turning against it doesn’t count as a ‘work’...? Do you contend that ‘grace’ is achieved through some involuntary osmotic process, independent of rational choice and subsequent action on that choice...?

...seems to me that ‘action’ and ‘work’ are one and the same...


42 posted on 07/03/2014 7:10:39 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: IrishBrigade; Linda Frances
...repenting from sin and turning against it doesn’t count as a ‘work’...? Do you contend that ‘grace’ is achieved through some involuntary osmotic process, independent of rational choice and subsequent action on that choice...? ...seems to me that ‘action’ and ‘work’ are one and the same...

When considering faith and works, works without faith is meaningless in the context of salvation. However, with faith will come works/fruits. New Testament authors recognized false conversions were occurring and in Gal 5:23 established a test of the Holy Spirit's indwelling in a person.

Gal 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Naturally, the Gal 5:22-23 test is time based and will be different for each person depending on where they began their particular spiritual walk at.
93 posted on 07/04/2014 10:04:18 AM PDT by fso301
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