The Early Church Fathers

Let’s see:

So, you as a “renowned theologian” get to do a simplistically read the Bible (whose books were assembled by the early Church fathers after decades of studious research and interpretation “our” renowned theologians) and assembled together authoritatively (under Petrine authority) you Sir have the gumption to tell us that after 2000 years of doctrine embraced by hundreds of saints and martyrs, validated by even leading Protestant and Evangelical theologians who converted to Catholicism that we “have got it wrong...especially on Mary.:

May be you should apply for a theological professorship at Harvard’s Divinity School. Your shallow reading of scripture is what makes Bible Christians a laughingstock, not unlike the David Koresh’s and the Moonies, and the snake handlers of Appalachia sprinkled with all the applied nonsense with all that born again etc.

And if you would read the Early Church Fathers (since they knew Jesus and the Apostles) you would find out that Mary had no other children.

You've made several errors in this statement.

1) the ECFs (not counting the original Apostles) did not know Jesus. He was long dead (from an earthly perspective c33 AD ) before they showed up.

2) most of the Apostles were dead before the ECFs were born

3) Mary did have other children.

•Matthew 13:55--"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?"

So if James, Joseph, Simon and Judas are not His brothers then who is Mary? Who is the carpenter's son?

What does Paul have to say on this matter?

Galatians 1:18-20

Then three years later I went up to Jerusalem to become acquainted with Cephas, and stayed with him fifteen days. 19But I did not see any other of the apostles except James, the Lord’s brother. 20(Now in what I am writing to you, I assure you before God that I am not lying.)

Paul says he's not lying....so somebody else must be. You gonna call Paul a liar when he so clearly identifies James as the brother of Christ????

Or we have the good doctor writing in Acts 1:12-14

12Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day’s journey away. 13When they had entered the city, they went up to the upper room where they were staying; that is, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James. 14These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.

I can't wait to see how the catholic spin machine handles this.

Let’s see: So, you as a “renowned theologian” get to do a simplistically read the Bible (whose books were assembled by the early Church fathers after decades of studious research and interpretation “our” renowned theologians) and assembled together authoritatively (under Petrine authority) you Sir have the gumption to tell us that after 2000 years of doctrine embraced by hundreds of saints and martyrs, validated by even leading Protestant and Evangelical theologians who converted to Catholicism that we “have got it wrong...especially on Mary.: May be you should apply for a theological professorship at Harvard’s Divinity School. Your shallow reading of scripture is what makes Bible Christians a laughingstock, not unlike the David Koresh’s and the Moonies, and the snake handlers of Appalachia sprinkled with all the applied nonsense with all that born again etc.

Do you not have new material?? You must get royalties for re-typing the same words over and over again.

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