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To: Campion

Evidently by your reference to Ellen White you think I’m a SDA. I’m not. I just keep the correct Sabbath. I worship exactly the same way I did as a Baptist just on the seventh day now. As far as the new testament goes I read that and other books that are not “cannonized”. I cannot control what history has done to the Word but I can study and seek truth.
LOL... Don’t think I have to be Jewish to observe the Sabbath. Got a scripture reference for that?


8 posted on 12/07/2014 4:54:40 AM PST by wheat_grinder
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To: wheat_grinder
"Don’t think I have to be Jewish to observe the Sabbath. Got a scripture reference for that?"

Answer from Paul (Romans):

"For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit (pneuma).”

The Apostles declares in Romans 2:25-29: “For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit (pneuma).”

Salvation is not about one's natural state, birthplace, birthday or parents. It is not about the physical act of circumcision - that is meaningless. It is about spiritual birth. It is about becoming a new creature through an inward work of circumcising the heart. What this is saying is that one's Jewishness (circumcision) means nothing if one isn’t saved, if one is saved then his Jewish upbringing has benefited him by somewhere bringing him into contact with the truth (Christ). I don't in any way believe this is talking about the physical act of circumcision but rather one's Jewishness. Jews were known as "the circumcision." This was a title that really denoted "Jew." We know it cannot be the act of circumcision as it avails nothing.

22 posted on 12/07/2014 6:04:48 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: wheat_grinder

You opined, “I cannot control what history has done to the Word but I can study and seek truth.” The real question left unaddressed is ‘do you believe God is able to manage His Word?’ Too many show that they do not believe that, as they accuse and reject according to what they perceive as ‘corruption in the Word.’ Jospeh Smith ran an enitre religious scam on that basis, a scam which continues even to this day!


25 posted on 12/07/2014 6:13:11 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: wheat_grinder
Don’t think I have to be Jewish to observe the Sabbath. Got a scripture reference for that?

Jesus is a Jew, of the tribe of Judah, descended from King David. He kept God's Holy days. The so called last supper was a Passover. He went to the Tabernacle on the Sabbath as was his custom.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out — that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Sabbath breaking is the sin that caused the captivity of Israel, and Judah about 130 years later. Keeping the Sabbath is very important to God. The seventh day is the Sabbath.

33 posted on 12/07/2014 6:54:08 AM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: wheat_grinder
I just keep the correct Sabbath.

Straining at gnats ... swallowing camels.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ ... Colossians 2:16-17

47 posted on 12/07/2014 7:56:21 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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