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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Pain in Childbirth was the result of the curse of sin.

Catholics would look at Revelation 12:1-2 and interpret “the woman clothed with the sun” as being a reference to Mary. Is this position correct? No, it is not.

If you notice the text in verse 2 it says that she was “with child and ‘she cried out being in labor and in pain.”

This is a problem because according to the Roman Catholic doctrine of the Immaculate Conception, Mary did not inherit Original Sin.

Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854:

The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved ‘immune from all stain of original sin.”

Original Sin is “the hereditary fallen nature and moral corruption that is passed down from Adam to his descendants.

“Sin entered the world through Adam (Romans 5:12).
He is the first man who committed sin, and that sin is reckoned to all people (1 Corinthians 15:22; Romans 5:18).
This means that all descendants of Adam are under the effects of original sin.

Gen. 3:16,

“To the woman He said, ‘I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth. In pain you shall bring forth children. Yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.’”

Notice that part of the curse is pain in childbirth. This is why women suffer during the birth process. So, when we look back to the text of Revelation 12:1-2, we see that the woman clothed with the sun is suffering birth pain.

Since the Roman Catholic position is that Mary could not be suffering birth pain (because of her Immaculate Conception and no Original Sin), then these verses cannot be about Mary.


75 posted on 01/15/2015 9:56:44 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Link to above exerts

http://carm.org/revelation12mary


76 posted on 01/15/2015 9:57:25 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
“To the woman He said, ‘I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth. In pain you shall bring forth children. Yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.’”

Sorry, Joe. I don't care HOW horny you are; you ain't gettin' none tonight; either!!!

86 posted on 01/16/2015 4:20:54 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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