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To: RnMomof7

“... Scripture does not speak of Purgatory...”

For my fellow Catholics - this statement is false so don’t pay any attention to the article. (Matthew 7:15)

Scripture proof texts for purgatory: (for Catholics)

2 Maccabees 12:39-42; 44-45
This is not found in Luther’s bible since he used the Palestinian canon used by the apostate Jews who never became Christian after the destruction of Jerusalem (post temple Jerusalem = whore of Babylon because those Jews had destroyed Jesus). The Alexandrian canon used by Jesus (and Catholics) contains Maccabees.

Also 1 Peter 3:19, 20 This prison is where Christ went after his death to preach to the spirits who were not yet in heaven, but not damned either (the Patriarchs). St. Augustine’s 99th epistle corroborates this (correct) interpretation, as proof that the Church has always recognized the third place, not heaven, not hell; it is not new or unsettled.

There are others, but this enough for my fellow Catholics to remain steadfast in the midst of the untruths bandied about in this post.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 7:24:29 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: stonehouse01
Jesus descended into hades and set those captives free. Prior to Christ's death no one could have gone to heaven. The perfect sacrifice had not yet been made. Jesus lead those captives out of there and it is no more for believers.

The teaching of the Catholic purgatory is a lie.

14 posted on 02/22/2015 7:36:13 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: stonehouse01
St. Augustine’s 99th epistle corroborates this (correct) interpretation, as proof that the Church has always recognized the third place, not heaven, not hell; it is not new or unsettled.

Purgatory is only one of many Roman Catholic teachings that cannot be verified by the Word of God or Jesus' apostles' writings.

It's one of many weak foundation pebbles (arrogantly added) in the RCC belief system that will not stand when confronted by Lord Jesus Christ or His Church which He alone founded.
16 posted on 02/22/2015 7:47:33 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: stonehouse01

Yes there are others, but thanks for that. Have a blessed Sunday stonehouse!


17 posted on 02/22/2015 7:56:09 AM PST by piusv
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To: stonehouse01
2 Maccabees 12:39-42; 44-45 This is not found in Luther’s bible since he used the Palestinian canon used by the apostate Jews who never became Christian after the destruction of Jerusalem (post temple Jerusalem = whore of Babylon because those Jews had destroyed Jesus). The Alexandrian canon used by Jesus (and Catholics) contains Maccabees.

Added to the Jewish canon FOR JUST THAT PURPOSE

That book..by IT'S own declaration is not inspired ...all inspired scripture is written by prophets (those that speak for God) , and this book tells you plainly that it is not infallible scripture

In 1 Maccabees 9:27 and 14:41 we read that prophets ceased to a come to the people.
1 Mac 9:26-30
26 And they sought out, and made diligent search after the friends of Judas, and brought them to Bacchides, and he took vengeance of them, and abused them. 27 And there was a great tribulation in Israel, such as was not since the day, that there was no prophet seen in Israel.
28 And all the friends of Judas came together, and said to Jonathan:
29 Since thy brother Judas died, there is not a man like him to go forth against our enemies, Bacchides, and them that are the enemies of our nation.
30 Now therefore we have chosen thee this day to be our prince, and captain in his stead to fight our battles.
1 Mac14:41-2
41 And that the Jews, and their priests, had consented that he should be their prince, and high priest for ever, till there should arise a faithful prophet:
42 And that he should be chief over them, and that he should have the charge of the sanctuary, and that he should appoint rulers over their works, and over the country, and over the armour, and over the strong holds.

So by its own testament the book of Maccabees and the other Apocrypha could never be considered inspired scripture equal to the other inspired books of the Old Testament , as all the books of the OT were written by men that were prophets.

So we have no inspired teachings on Purgatory in the word of god.

The Catholic church adapted an uninspired practice or belief that the Jews had likely adopted from the heathen nations around them and had never been taught by God through the prophets that spoke for him

Also 1 Peter 3:19, 20 This prison is where Christ went after his death to preach to the spirits who were not yet in heaven, but not damned either (the Patriarchs). St. Augustine’s 99th epistle corroborates this (correct) interpretation, as proof that the Church has always recognized the third place, not heaven, not hell; it is not new or unsettled.

But the church has no "further" "revelation" on that right?

Could we plaease have the INFALLIBLE interpretation of this scripture from the magisterium

29 posted on 02/22/2015 11:05:42 AM PST by RnMomof7
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