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The irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous??? What the heck??

I thought AA had achieved a great deal of success.

While I understand that not everybody is helped by AA, isn’t it a stretch to say its an irrational program?

So just because this article cites some other methods which help addicts, how does it follow that AA is not a good treatment method???


5 posted on 03/17/2015 9:32:09 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
While I understand that not everybody is helped by AA, isn’t it a stretch to say its an irrational program?

Efficacious is not the same as rational.

It's great training if you aspire to join a cult.

17 posted on 03/17/2015 9:39:46 AM PDT by papertyger (I didn't leave my party: my party betrayed me.)
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There are plenty of other treatments that have similar records of failure but, that failure is the responsibility of the addict or alcoholic, who is the only lightbulb that must want to change...


39 posted on 03/17/2015 10:11:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
While I understand that not everybody is helped by AA, isn’t it a stretch to say its an irrational program?

That depends upon how you define "irrational." Seems to me that an irrational program could include any program that hasn't undergone a long-term, result-oriented study that uses control groups based upon age, race, ethnicity, wealth, family structure, and other demographics. Indeed, by that definition, Common Core is about as irrational as a program can get.

44 posted on 03/17/2015 10:18:27 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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“I thought AA had achieved a great deal of success.”

Not if you are trying to make money off people not drinking.


55 posted on 03/17/2015 10:46:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I thought AA had achieved a great deal of success.

There is no way to know for sure. I have known people who swear it worked for them, but the actual percentage of people who succeed through AA verses other methods, or even just going cold turkey will never be known because of AA's anonymity (the second"A").

97 posted on 03/17/2015 1:48:08 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

AA has at best an 8% success rate. Many other treatments are more effective.


123 posted on 03/17/2015 4:11:20 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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