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Unsealed.org ^ | 4/21/15 | Gary R.

Posted on 04/21/2015 3:14:30 PM PDT by amessenger4god

It's really so very simple.  Jesus died for your sins, was buried, and rose again.

Do you accept that message?

I often over complicate the message to my own shame, but it is just that simple.  It amazes me how there are entire denominations (thinking RCC) that constantly refer to "the Gospel", yet when pressed they cannot even define what "the Gospel" is anymore... or if they do define it, it is some sort of faith + works complicated mess, far beyond what Paul described in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4:

"Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.

For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures."


Why is it such a temptation to go back to the law?  Maybe it gives us a sense of security.  In other words, if the whole "by grace through faith apart from works" thing doesn't pan out, we can fall back on our works.  Yet God has removed the cover off of my sin and now I am daily confronted with the impossibility of being perfect enough.  Not only can I not be perfect enough, but actually I am utterly wretched and have accrued a debt that I realize is simply impossible for me to pay back.

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin." - Romans 3:20

Now the "but" starts.  "But what what about James?"  The question here is particularly regarding James chapter 2, which to some seems at odds with virtually every other New Testament epistle.  It is largely upon James 2 that the Roman Catholic Church bases its dogma that salvation is by faith and works (in apparent contradiction to Ephesians 2:8-9: "faith apart from works").

Just step back for a minute and think about all you know about the Bible.  What's the story?  Isn't it the story of man's fall from grace, man's continual rebellion, God's promise of a coming Redeemer, and then ultimately the Redeemer coming to reconcile us back to God?

What about the law?  Was it not a system of rules that no one could perfectly keep, so there was a parallel system of sacrifices and offerings "to make up for" man's inability to keep the rules?

If you boil it down, the Bible is the continually repeated pattern of man's inability to save himself, and so God steps in and does it for him:








Before you dissect James 2, you have to read Galatians 2:11-3:14, which is literally the lens through which James must be interpreted.  Let no one fool you, this issue of faith vs works is not a new issue, it was at the very heart of early Church conflict, and the very author of James' epistle is one of the main targets of Paul's fury in Galatians 2 & 3:

11 When Cephas [Peter] came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. 13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.  
14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?  
15 “We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.  
17 “But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn’t that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, then I really would be a lawbreaker.  
19 “For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”  
3:1 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? 4 Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”  
7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.  
10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.” 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.” 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

Above you can see the terrible results of thinking works have anything to do with saving you.  You can see that James initial teaching:

1. Caused Peter to stop ministering to Gentiles

2. Broke fellowship between Jews and Gentiles

3. Forced Gentiles to bear burdens not necessary for salvation (i.e. circumcision)

4. Caused the church in Jerusalem to stop meeting with sinners (unlike Jesus Himself)

5. Ignores the Cross of Christ

6. Is impossible to keep

7. Brings the curse upon those who believe it

Galatians 2 & 3 is even more significant when you realize this is likely Paul's description of the issue at hand in Acts 15.  What is Acts 15 about?  This is the Council of Jerusalem, known as the first council of the universal Church, and the very issue at hand was faith (Paul and Barnabas) vs works (James and the "circumcision party"), specifically circumcision vs uncircumcision.

The council sided with Paul.

Peter's final verdict can be found in v. 7-11:

"After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: 'Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.'"

Going back to James, you must first realize that he was no longer at odds with Paul and Barnabas because their preaching had won him over (see v. 13-19).

So now, before considering James 2, you have in favor of "grace through faith apart from works":

1. The general theme of the Bible

2. The entire sacrificial system of the Torah

3. Virtually every epistle in the New Testament

4. The Cross of Christ itself... Jesus died for your sins!

Considering #4, which is Christianity 101 (what Paul literally called "of first importance"), why do so many denominations in technicality reject that?  Jesus died for your sins, he literally took your sins in His body to the tree (1 Peter 2:24).  Tetelestai!  It is finished, debt is paid, Jesus sat down (Hebrews 1:3).

Catholicism and Orthodoxy have developed entire systems of sacraments, indulgences, and intercessions to have man again go back to the stage of having to continually atone for his sins through his own works.  It is like rewinding the Bible back to Leviticus.

If Jesus died for your sins (which again is Christianity 101), why are you trying to atone for them yourself?

Consider James 2:10:

"For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it."

James is exactly right and goes on to talk about mercy triumphing over judgment (12-13).  It is amazing to me that even though Jesus died for our sins (Revelation 1:5) to free us from the James 2:10 predicament (1 John 2:1) that so much of Christianity through the centuries drifted from the simple Gospel message of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ, into a message of sacraments, indulgences, and other-than-Jesus intercessions.

Consider the current Catholic system.  If you commit even once any one of these sins without confessing before death you have a one-way ticket to Gehenna whether you believe Jesus died for you or not.  In fact, every single time you commit a "mortal sin" in Catholicism you become unsaved and are "re-saved" upon confession and priestly pardon.  Notice that this process completely decouples forgiveness from faith in Jesus' finished work.  Instead, the Torah system of the endless sacrifices of bulls and goats is replaced with the Catholic system of the endless sacrifices of the Mass, and priestly confession, and other sacraments, because no one can truly live up to the Catholic standard just as no one could live up to the Levitical standard.

In light of the Catholic system consider also Jesus' standard where hatred = murder and lust = adultery.  Are people so blind as to not see how at any given time the vast majority of Catholics would be unsaved under their own standard?

With these things in mind, it is my belief that James is not contradicting the rest of the Bible in James 2.  He is not debating faith vs works, but rather a profession of faith (v. 14: "says he has faith") vs an actually demonstrated faith (v. 18).  It's the difference between saying something and actually believing it.  Knowledge is just "knowing" some facts, while belief is what one acts upon because he trusts that knowledge.  I have much knowledge of Islam and Hinduism, but I do not believe either of them because I believe they are false.  I have knowledge of Christianity and I believe it to be true, so I naturally act upon my belief.  The demons know that God is one, but they do not believe that His way is right and they fight against the Gospel.

This leads to the final question about James, which regards justification.  James says that a man is not justified by faith alone (while Paul frequently does).  Just as there are two types of faith, there are also two types of "justification".  This article nails it:

"It is also true that the justification of which James speaks is not the justification of which Paul speaks. One indication of this is the timing. Abraham was justified by works "when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar" (James 2:21). This was about thirty years after he had been justified by faith (Gen. 15:6). James shows that he is sensitive to timing when he says in 2:23 that Abraham's justification by works "fulfilled" Genesis 15:6. He speaks of Genesis 15:6 as a prophecy, and of Genesis 22 as its fulfillment. Prophecy and fulfillment do not occur at the same time and are not the same thing.

What then is the nature of justification in James? James indicates this plainly in 2:18: "Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works." He is speaking about demonstrating the genuineness of faith.

In Romans 4, Paul addresses the question, How was Abraham justified? In this question, "justified" means "reckoned righteous before God," and Paul's answer is: by the imputation of Christ's righteousness, received by faith alone. But when James asks how Abraham was justified, he is assuming that Abraham already had faith. So his question really is, How was Abraham justified in claiming to have faith? In this question, justified means "judged to have made a valid claim," and James's answer is: by producing good works. The questions are different, the answers are different, the justifications are different.

Paul speaks of a justification that comes by faith and not by works, while James speaks of a justification that comes by works and not by faith. Paul teaches us that we are constituted righteous before God by faith alone. James teaches us that the genuineness of our faith is demonstrated by our works."

The take away to all this is simple.  Get back to the Gospel.  Know it.  Believe it.  Accept it.  Preach it.

"Gospel" - εὐαγγέλιον - Strong's Greek 2098 - literally "God's good news"

The time is short! MARANATHA!

Hebrews 10:14: "For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy."

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: faith; gospel; works

1 posted on 04/21/2015 3:14:31 PM PDT by amessenger4god
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To: amessenger4god

WOW am I surprised somebody actually got it...I like how verses 1 and 2 where bolded and underlined confirming this is the gospel, it is indeed rare to see, I can ask 100 people what is the gospel and get 1000 answers none of which are the gospel, however they all sound good but they are all wrong.

(see my tag somewhat truncated for space)

That is the gospel that one must believe to be saved there is none other, you don’t have to go anywhere, do anything, say anything, ask anything, pray anything, no pomp, no ceremony, Just Believe...how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: That is all.


2 posted on 04/21/2015 3:57:59 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: amessenger4god

“It amazes me how there are entire denominations (thinking RCC) that constantly refer to “the Gospel”, yet when pressed they cannot even define what “the Gospel” is anymore... or if they do define it, it is some sort of faith + works complicated mess, far beyond what Paul described in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4:”

Whoever wrote that has not read much of St. Paul let alone other Catholic theologians.

I like Johannes Hofinger put it:

- In His infinite goodness (Eph 2:7), the Father in heaven has called us (1 Pet 5:10) to be united with Him in life and joy (John 17:21), sharing His divine riches (Eph 2:7):

- through Christ, His Son (1 Pet 5:10)–Him He gave as a ransom for us sinners (1 Tim 2:6; 1 John 4:10), and into His likeness He desires that we be conformed (Rom 8:20),

- so that, born anew of water and the Holy Spirit (John 3:5), and thus made partakers of the divine nature (2 Pet 1:4), we may be children of God (1 John 3:1).

- And because we are God’s children, He has sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts (Gal 4:6):

- thus being the temple of God (1 Cor 6:19), we are to live the life of God’s children (Rom 6:4), following the example of Christ, our first-born brother (Rom 8:29),

- so that we may gain the kingdom of God and His glory, as heirs of God (1 Thess 2:12), joint heirs with Christ (Rom 8:17).

Johannes Hofinger, The Good News and It’s Proclamation

And for a better understanding of just how much goes with the word Gospel: http://blog.adw.org/2014/11/does-gospel-simply-mean-good-news-or-have-we-unintentionally-defined-ourselves-into-a-corner/


3 posted on 04/21/2015 4:06:37 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: amessenger4god

What comprises a “work”?


4 posted on 04/21/2015 4:36:54 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: amessenger4god

"Not every one that saith to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of My Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 7:21

"But according to thy hardness and impenitent heart, thou treasurest up to thyself wrath, against the day of wrath, and revelation of the just judgment of God. Who will render to every man according to his works. To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life: But to them that are contentious, and who obey not the truth, but give credit to iniquity, wrath and indignation." Romans 2:5-8

"For we must all be manifested before the judgement seat of Christ, that every one may receive the proper things of the body, according as he hath done, whether it be good or evil." 2 Corinthians 5:10

"Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers be transformed as the ministers of justice, whose end shall be according to their works." 2 Corinthians 11:15

"You are made void of Christ, you who are justified in the law: you are fallen from grace. For we in spirit, by faith, wait for the hope of justice. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision: but faith that worketh by charity." Galatians 5:4-6

"For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God; Not of works, that no man may glory. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:8-10

"Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation. For it is God who worketh in you, both to will and to accomplish, according to His good will." Philippians 2:12-13

"Knowing that you shall receive of the Lord the reward of inheritance. Serve ye the Lord Christ. For he that doth wrong, shall receive for that which he hath done wrongfully: and there is no respect of persons with God." Colossians 3:24-25

"What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him?" James 2:14

"So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself." James 2:17

"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" James 2:20

"Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?" James 2:24

"For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead." James 2:26

"And if you invoke as Father Him who, without respect of persons, judgeth according to every one's work: converse in fear during the time of your sojourning here." 1 Peter 1:17

"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works." Apocalypse 20:12-13

"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16


5 posted on 04/21/2015 4:44:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: amessenger4god

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/my_top_ten.html

James 2:24

"You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone."

In addition to their belief in the Bible alone ("sola Scriptura"), most Protestants believe that all one has to do is accept Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Savior in order to be justified by God (justification is the process by which man, moved by grace, turns toward God and away from sin, and accepts God’s forgiveness and righteousness). Thus, most Protestants believe that one is justified and saved by His faith in Christ alone (called "sola Fide" or Faith alone). But if this is true, then why does James say that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone?

James says this because we are justified, and ultimately saved, through both our faith and works, and not just faith alone. In fact, the only place in the Bible where the phrase "faith alone" appears is in James 2:24 where it says we are justified by works and NOT by faith alone. So the Bible never teaches anywhere that we are justified, saved, or anything else, by faith alone. While on its face the Catholic position seems obvious, the theology of faith and works in the matter of salvation is actually quite complicated, and has been one of the main sources of division between Catholicism and Protestantism. Hence, a couple of points should be made to address the controversy and clarify Catholic teaching.

First, Catholics ultimately believe that we are saved, not by faith or works, but by Jesus Christ and Him alone. Jesus Christ's death and Resurrection is the sole source of our justification (being in a right relationship with God) and salvation (sharing in God's divine life). But as a result of Christ's death and resurrection, we are now able to receive God's grace. Grace is God's own divine life which He infuses into our souls. It is what Adam initially lost for us, and Christ won back for us. This grace initially causes us to seek God and to believe in Him (the "faith" part). Non-Catholics generally stop here.

But God desires us to respond to His grace by putting our faith into action (the "works" part). This is why Jesus always taught about our salvation in the context of what we actually did during our earthly lives, and not how much faith we had ("whatever you did to the least of my brothers, you did to Me." Matthew 25:40,45). When Jesus teaches about His second coming where He will separate the sheep from the goats, He bases salvation and damnation upon what we actually did ("works"), whether righteous or evil. Matthew 25:31-46. In James 2:14-26, James is similarly instructing us to put our faith into action by performing good works, and not just giving an intellectual assent of faith. James says such "faith apart from works is dead." James 2:17,26.

So we must do more than accept Jesus as personal Lord and Savior. Even the demons believe Jesus is Savior, and yet "they tremble." James 2:19. We must also do good works. Faith is the beginning of a process that leads us toward justification, but faith alone never obtains the grace of justification. Faith and works acting together achieve our justification. Saint Paul says it best when he writes that we need "faith working in love." Galatians 5:6. We are not justified and saved by faith alone.

Secondly, it is important to distinguish between the "works" James taught about in James 2:24 and the "works of the law" Saint Paul taught about in Rom. 3:20,28; Gal. 2:16,21; 3:2,5,10; and Eph. 2:8-9. Protestants generally confuse James' "good works" from Paul's "works of the law" when they attempt to prove that "works" are irrelevant to justification and salvation. The "works of the law" Paul taught about in Ephesians 2:8-9 and elsewhere referred to the Mosaic law and their legal system that made God obligated to reward them for their works. They would thus “boast” about their works by attributing their works to themselves. Cf. Rom. 4:2; Eph. 2:9. Saint Paul taught that, with the coming of Christ, the Mosaic (moral, legal, and ceremonial) law which made God a debtor to us no longer justified a person. Instead, Paul taught that we are now justified and saved by grace (not legal obligation) through faith (not works of law). Eph. 2:5,8. Hence, we no longer “boast” by attributing our works to ourselves. We attribute them to God who gives everything to us freely by His grace.

Therefore, we are no longer required to fulfill the “works of law,” but to fulfill the “law of Christ” Gal. 6:2. This is why Paul writes that the “doers of the law (of Christ)” will be justified. Rom. 2:13. Of course, the “works of the law” Paul wrote about in Rom. 3:20,28; Gal. 2:16,21; 3:2,5,10 and Eph. 2:8-9 have nothing to do with the “good works” James is teaching in James 2:24 or the “law” Paul is teaching about in Rom. 2:13 (because they are part of the same Word of God which can never contradict itself).

In summary, based on the Scriptures, the Church has taught for 2,000 years that we are justified and saved by the grace and mercy of Christ through both faith and works, and not faith alone. We are no longer in a legal system of debt where God owes us (creditor/debtor). We are now in a system of grace where God rewards our works when done with faith in Christ (Father/child). This also means that we must continue to exercise our faith and works to the end of our lives in order to be saved. This is why Jesus told us to "endure to the end" to be saved. Matthew 10:22; 24:13; Mark 13:13. This is also why Saint Paul warned us that we could even lose our salvation if we did not persevere. cf. Romans 11:20-23; 1 Corinthians 9:27. This Catholic belief contradicts the novel Protestant notion of "once saved, always saved."


6 posted on 04/21/2015 4:47:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: amessenger4god

Preach the Gospel. If necessary, use words.

St. Francis


7 posted on 04/21/2015 4:59:39 PM PDT by rightthinkingwoman
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To: PoloSec

But there is ‘another gospel’ that christendom believes in that is not ‘according to scripture, but is ‘according to Rome’s catechism..

Good Friday vs Passover Lamb (14th day)
Holy Saturday vs weekly and annual Sabbath Feast of Unleavened Bread (15th day)
Easter Sunday vs. Feast of First Fruits.(16th day)

One is ‘according to Rome’. One is according to scriptures.

And one can be told using Leviticus.

One only can be told using Rome.

Maybe another gospel hiding in plain sight..


8 posted on 04/21/2015 5:11:03 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: rightthinkingwoman
Preach the Gospel. If necessary, use words.

St. Francis

Thank you for answering my question.

9 posted on 04/21/2015 5:21:24 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: amessenger4god

Now the “but” starts. “But what what about James.


I don`t think what James said had anything to do with the law at all, he was talking about works of faith and it not only makes sense but you can read what Jesus said in his words.

Love thy neighbor.
Love thy enemy.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

If some one is hungry give them something to eat.


10 posted on 04/21/2015 6:40:50 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: amessenger4god

Down and dirty...Right to the issue...The simplicity of salvation...Good job...


11 posted on 04/21/2015 10:49:34 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool; amessenger4god

dittos


12 posted on 04/21/2015 11:29:10 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: rightthinkingwoman
Preach the Gospel. If necessary, use words.

St. Francis

Nice pithy thought Francis ... but the Bible explicitly states the gospel must be articulated to be believed.

13 posted on 04/22/2015 6:00:42 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: amessenger4god
1. As on other threads, it is amazing to me how someone articulates something and then the crowd rushes in to rebut the argument using arguments that the thread author already rebutted. It makes one wonder if they read the article.

James says not by faith alone, Paul REPEATEDLY says it is by faith alone. Please scroll up to the top and read article again.

2. My reply to "Salvation": the Bible is quite clear that a faith that doesn't work is not a saving faith, yet it is even clearer that salvation is through faith apart from works. A belief you don't act on is not true belief.

Also, regarding Matthew 7, it is interesting to cite 7:21, and not the very next verse:

"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’"

It is the very ones who offer works as justification who Jesus calls "evildoers" and tells them to depart from Him. I don't want to be in that camp.

3. The disciples came to Jesus regarding this very issue in John 6:

v. 28: Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

v. 29: Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

14 posted on 04/22/2015 8:02:37 AM PDT by amessenger4god
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To: Salvation
James 2:24 "You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone."

In context, the "faith alone" in James 2:24 is not the same as the "faith alone" of sola fide.

Reading all of James 2, you come to understand that the term "faith alone" in verse 24, means faith that does not have works. He is talking about the man who says "I have faith", but does nothing other than talk. That man has the "faith alone" that James is talking about.

We all agree that faith that does not have works is a dead thing.

James 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

We are justified in the eyes of men through our works. We are justified in the eyes of God through our faith alone.

15 posted on 04/22/2015 8:20:25 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Salvation

James is writing to “the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad” during the time BEFORE the Mystery of the Body of Christ was revealed to Paul and taught to Believers. Are you a member of the 12 tribes scattered abroad? (James 1:1) If not, you might want to rightly divide his letter.

James 2:14-26 (KJV)
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Note the example of Rahab. Is James in anyway establishing that she was saved by what she did ... OR ... did she demonstrate that she believed in God by her actions? The same goes for Abraham, who was credited with righteousness because he BELIEVED God long before the sign of circumcision, or offering Isaac. (Genesis 15:5-6, Romans 4, Galatians 3, James 2:23)

Now let’s look at what Paul writes in his prison letters which were written AFTER James, and AFTER he received the revelation of the Mystery, addressed to “the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus.” Are you a saint and part of the faithful in Christ Jesus? (Ephesians 1:1)

Ephesians 2:1-10 (KJV)
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Salvation is a FREE GIFT. I don’t know how anyone could make it clearer than what Paul writes above. Good works are the fruit that is produced after you are spiritually reborn.

Nothing can be done that will ever surpass what Jesus has already accomplished. It was a once in a lifetime performance never to be rivaled. Just believe God’s Word, and say “Thank you Father!” As a spiritually reborn babe in Christ, you must feed on the Word so you will grow, producing the Good fruit, and fulfilling the Good purpose God has planned for you.

Why not keep it really simple with a human analogy. When a baby is adopted, what part do they play? Nothing. They are simply thankful for having a new father and mother. There is little, if anything, they could do to earn or deserve their new family. As they grow, they will realize and more fully appreciate their new family, and all that they have inherited. As they mature, they will begin to imitate their parents, sharing the same love they experienced with the world around them.

God chose you. He did everything legally necessary to adopt you into His family. All you have to do is receive Him - believe His Word. Paul explains the process in Romans.

Romans 10:4-11 (KJV)
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

You ARE SAVED when you believe in your heart and confess what you believe. You don’t even have to understand it theologically - probably better if you don’t, as that often undermines the simplicity of God’s plan. Religion has been screwing up this Truth for 2,000 years.

The moment you add something to faith, you undermine God’s Truth. This is what Paul addresses in his letters to the Galatians and Colossians. The threat then was Judaizers trying to impose the Law, and to a lesser extent, pagan converts to Christ introducing their practices. As Christianity expanded, the latter became the greater problem, as Gentile converts became the majority. You can see the devolution from faith to religion in Paul’s latter letters. Believers are complete IN CHRIST. Religion and the tradition of men can do nothing for a Believer.

Colossians 2:4-10 (KJV)
4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Galatians 3:1-5 (KJV)
1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Galatians 4:4-11 (KJV)
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Servants work. Children are free, especially when your Father is the Creator of the Universe! The weak and beggarly elements are all the works of the flesh, it is the bondage, the legalism, that religion enslaves folks with in order to control them. Believers are set free from all bondage, including the most insidious type, religious bondage.

Galatians 2:4 (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

Note that it was false brethren (religious folk) who wanted to take away the Galatians’ Liberty in Christ. Satan has used religion since the Garden to pull people away from God’s Word.

Galatians 5:1 (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Colossians 3:1-4 (KJV)
1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

Religion is OF THE EARTH. Seek those things which are above.


16 posted on 04/22/2015 9:10:03 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Kandy Atz

Do you believe that the twelve tribes scattered abroad are represented in the false denominations of present day who say that homosexuality, abortion and contraception are A-OK?

BTW, Catholicism has stood against these sins and will continue to stand against them.


17 posted on 04/22/2015 9:18:40 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I’ve yet to identify a church that supports gay marriage and abortion, that also believes that Jesus is the only way of salvation.

It follows that these churches start redefining God’s moral law and end up rejecting the Gospel itself. It gets replaced with some form of universalism.

Now regarding the RCC’s stance on gay marriage and abortion, I am glad that they have maintained those views so far, but polls of Christian belief have consistently shown that the actual laity in the Catholic Church are much more liberal in their views than other denominations.

Additionally, the Catholic Church has all but abandoned trusting the historicity of the Bible. Just as the Vatican abandoned Genesis, it would not surprise me if they sooner or later abandon God’s moral law.

In any case, it is the Evangelicals, Pentecostals, and non-denominational Christian groups that are mostly remaining steadfast in preaching God’s moral law, the truth of the Bible, and the simple Gospel message. These are also the groups that are growing the fastest and are set to represent at least half of the world’s Christian population within a couple of decades.


18 posted on 04/22/2015 11:37:47 AM PDT by amessenger4god
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To: rightthinkingwoman; Iscool
Sounds cute... but without speaking the gospel ..NO ONE IS SAVED

isa 52:One of my favorite books. I used a reading from Ruth in my wedding.

We are not God..we can not save anyone by our actions..

And by the way..Francis NEVER SAID THAT

Mark Galli of Christianity Today is reporting that the oft quoted Francis of Assisi quote, "Preach the gospel at all times; when necessary, use words" was NEVER uttered by the monk. I've heard the quote once too often. It's time to set the record straight—about the quote, and about the gospel. Francis of Assisi is said to have said, "Preach the gospel at all times; when necessary, use words." This saying is carted out whenever someone wants to suggest that Christians talk about the gospel too much, and live the gospel too little. Fair enough—that can be a problem. Much of the rhetorical power of the quotation comes from the assumption that Francis not only said it but lived it. The problem is that he did not say it. Nor did he live it. And those two contra-facts tell us something about the spirit of our age.

http://www.extremetheology.com/2009/05/francis-of-assisi-never-said-preach-the-gospel-at-all-times-when-necessary-use-words.html

19 posted on 04/22/2015 1:00:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Kandy Atz

Hearty AMEN to all of your post!


20 posted on 04/22/2015 6:47:19 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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